Wow, I need to read the FDA site! Kork, are you a business owner or a scientist? I believe you told me at one time, but sorry, I don't recall. I like your ambition to study these issues in depth.

Engineer.

P.S. I don't recommend the FDA site. It's an excruciating combination of labyrinthian and boring.

What do you recommend?

Do you find the FDA site fairly factual?

You are welcome Korkskrew.
Our dear Andrea slaved many moons making that site what it is today.
Oh, yeah, and this one too.

I was mostly being a smart-ass. The site is entierly factual, but I felt like I needed good luck, or a lot of time, to find the info I wanted. It's murder to navigate.

It has become clear to me that if one is serious about understanding the scope and full meaning of the FDA regulatory system, the best idea is to hire a lawyer who had FDA experience.

Well not sure who will remember me or my story (since last time I updated this thread).

Quick re-cap, have been doing electrolysis for about 9/10 years.. Never got any reduction (only some pitting/scarring) - used many different electrolygists at home in ireland and also in ascot valve, keilor east & Brunswick, melbourne Australia.

Then moved on to the Applisonix Selectif Pro. Did lots of research and it promised many wonderful things. When it wasnt working very well, i took advice from the distributor and started waxing after the applisonix selectif pro sessions (to get the hairs in anagen phase for next session around). Eventually gave up at the start of August 2011 and reverted back to electrolysis reluctantly (on advice from Dfahey & Christine O'Connell) on this forum.

Christine recommended someone here in Melbourne for me. Ghitta based in city. Went to her with no faith or confidence in the whole electrolysis process (as the 9/10 years of trying it did nothing for me even though i did everything properly, went regular, no plucking etc etc).

Anyway I now think it is time to update this forum to apologize firstly to Dfahey and Christine for my lack of confidence in electrolysis and also to let you know where I am at now...

I have been going regularly to Ghitta (Melbourne Hair removal Centre - now based in Coburg) since August last year. It has been a slow but steady process.

She was using an older machine for the first few months but now has the apilus. The apilus is less painful and my skin reacts much better to it. I find Ghitta truly brilliant - not only her actual work but her commitment and caring. She will keep trying until she gets it and will not pluck.. If the hair does not come out easily after the first zap, she will go back again and again until it does (no plucking happening here). Thankfully the most it takes is 2/3 zaps for the 1 hair (and that usually only the difficult ones)...

Her attitude is brilliant, she is very persistent, which I love. The last electrolygist i went to knew the hair stuff (cycles etc) inside out and upside down but did not have the commitment/perseverance to go after those niggly blond long hairs. Ghitta always asks what bothers me most and works on that.

The results with Ghitta have been very good. Don't get me wrong there is a long way to go yet (before I sit at a restuarant window in full sunshine with my hair tied up - lol!)without worring about my hairs while i talk to somebody across the table. But we are definetly getting there...

I have went the longest i've ever went without having some form of hair treatment (5.5weeks), just had the appointment today. I had one brown coarse hair this treatment and none last treatment and obviously a few each time before that. However it is the blonde hairs which trouble me as they grow long and i have lots of that dreadful irish fuzz... However she has been working on the long blonde hairs too and I also have a noticed a reduction in them. It will be interesting to see where I am in another 6 months (at which i promise to update again).

it is so hard to find a good electrolygist and my experience is that only about 1/10 are any good, thankfully i eventually found one..

I would just like to add for those people who may read this post and have bad experiences with electrolysis, keep trying.. the problem is it is very hard to know after only a few sessions, it takes a while.. but from my current experiences, I would look for someone with hygienic office (Ghitta first electrolygist I ever went to that wears gloves), v persistent and actually asks and cares which areas bother you most and also the electrolygist who doesnt just give one zap and remove the hair with the tweezers but who keeps going back until it becomes loose itself. Also an electrolygist with an apilus would be the only electrolygist i would go to now.. It is much kinder to my skin (however still marks for about 2 days but better than the previous machines).

I will update again in another 6 months (at which time I'll hopefully be sitting at that restaurant window (with my hair tied up) - may sound ridiculous but its my aspiration!!! Good luck to all

Thanks dee.oz, You say when you gave up on Applisonix, but not when you started. How long did you give it before you gave up?

i started it in August 2010...

Oh, no apologies needed. We have conversations here about hair removal options and you the consumer freely chooses what you want to try.




I'm glad you found Ghitta. I'm glad she updated her epilator, but let me just say that there are many electrologists that have other models of epilators that can offer good skin outcome. It truly boils down to skill. Comfort is a bonus with the AP PLAT/PURE and that is why many electrologists are updating to 27 megahertz technology.




Twenty-three pages of this thread and now you are on the right track with Ghitta. We'll be waiting for your update. Keep positive, 'Kay?