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#100002 - 07/07/12 10:05 PM Re: Mantaray:Medlite Prisma 3.5x & lighting ?s [Re: Michael Bono]
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Originally Posted By: Michael Bono
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Nice to know that there's another fellow Pastafarian around here wink

Originally Posted By: depilacionelectr
Like Dee, I have no problem to remove these hairs "vellus". I only fear one thing. The peach fuzz from the ear of some girls, especially those of Indian origin. The rest is not a problem.


Ah yes. As an Indian/desi, I have the peach fuzz on the ear lobes too.

I don't understand genetics sometimes. Why the hell did Indians get the genes for hairiness in a hot, dry climate? What selective advantage does that give if any? Conversely, why are people in colder climates (winters) hairless. This baffles me.

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#100003 - 07/07/12 10:34 PM Re: Mantaray:Medlite Prisma 3.5x & lighting ?s [Re: Taco]
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Originally Posted By: Taco


I don't understand genetics sometimes. Why the hell did Indians get the genes for hairiness in a hot, dry climate? What selective advantage does that give if any? Conversely, why are people in colder climates (winters) hairless. This baffles me.



I'm not sure about this. The only client from a really cold climate that I know had hairs that seem to be there especially to meet thermal function. It is, rather, was a type of hair that experts call "lanugo", a fine hair, long and very abundant, high density per Cm 2. Similar to cats, so I guess that, at least in this case, nature did its job.
Maybe if the hairs are blond, you tend to believe that they are not there, and this should also be part of the plan. A blond hunter go unnoticed in the snow.

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#100074 - 07/11/12 07:49 PM Re: Mantaray:Medlite Prisma 3.5x & lighting ?s [Re: Michael Bono]
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I am currently working (for now) on my last vellus 10x magnifier at home case. I am convinced many of these clients have one or more psychological disorders (i.e. OCD, cognitive distortion, etc.) making it difficult if not impossible to please them (regardless of how well electrolysis works). Many are chronically unhappy and will always see hair. Having realistic expectations is not part of their mental process. Personally I believe the decision to not treat is the right approach. They need good psychiatric care, not an electrologist.
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#100077 - 07/11/12 08:32 PM Re: Mantaray:Medlite Prisma 3.5x & lighting ?s [Re: Hairadicator]
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Dear Hairadicator, THANKS for voicing this opinion, which I generally agree with. I work in an office with a plastic surgeon and we often see people that are “physically perfect” that want something done. Getting involved with cases like this can lead to disaster: they will see damage or will certainly be dissatisfied. My ONLY case of “nearly being sued” is a true case in point.

A lovely young woman came in with “a beard.” However, she had absolutely no hair whatsoever. I searched her “upper lip” and, to satisfy her, removed one hair; without charging her. Something told me to photograph her: I did a close-up of the lip before the treatment and afterward. A week later, I got a call from her, very upset that “now I have a scar.” She came in; the doctor looked at her and didn’t see anything. She went away in tears. Luckily, I photographed the area again … something “told me.”

A week later I got a call from her attorney: “Would you consider settling this case for $10,000, rather than go to court?”

I had 8 X 10 enlargements made of all the photos (nicely they were all time-stamped), and sent them to the attorney. I never heard anything again.

We all must be reminded that mental illness is not uncommon and can affect people in many ways. I’m a BIG supporter of NAMI and other organizations that seek to de-stigmatize mental illness. However, it’s also a good idea to be on guard too! Saying "no" is our prerogative.

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#100080 - 07/11/12 09:36 PM Re: Mantaray:Medlite Prisma 3.5x & lighting ?s [Re: Michael Bono]
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It's odd that my vellus hair 10x magnifier at home client was scarred by her previous electrologist, yet all she can see is the hair. She continues to push me to use higher current and I refuse, pointing out the scabs and damage her previous electrologist caused when this was done. She started treatment only 9 weeks ago and is now raising concerns that something is wrong. I am certain this entire situation will "blow up" and of course I will be blamed for electrolysis "not working" (they always say that don't they?). In the beginning I emphasized I could only "improve the situation" and given the size of the job did not make any promises regarding completion time frames/number of treatments etc. since the amount of hair was abundant and going into these cases you never know how a client's objective will change ... and many times it does. Sometimes they want you to back off and just remove the obvious hair and at other times they will change the original approach and have the electrologist remove everything possible. My client requested an increase in the treatment time so I could remove more hair, now she is complaining about the money she is spending. This is a no-win situation and I have no idea how it will end (probably not well). Let this and Michael Bono's experience be a lesson to other electrologists that in some cases it is best to say "no." Vellus hair and a 10x magnifier at home is a recipe for disaster.


Edited by Hairadicator (07/11/12 09:41 PM)
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#100082 - 07/12/12 12:25 AM Re: Mantaray:Medlite Prisma 3.5x & lighting ?s [Re: Hairadicator]
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"Coming Clean"

What I also didn't tell you is that I never really treated that ONE vellus hair. I tweezed it out! I never turned on the current. I had this "feeling" that this was going to be a problem.

Just remembering another "job." Nicely, I refused to do this very odd woman. Months later, I saw this same client on "Judge Judy" suing a friend of mine. (She did lose the case, but my friend was in real trauma over this.) Oh, then there the "witch" and the "biker guy" with a "Swastika" shaved in his chest. (I did, however, do one REALLY interesting dude ... what a story that was. However, he was not "psychological" just "political."

Maybe it's only "California?" But then, that's the price we pay to live in this out-of-control creative exciting environment. Yeah, I would "die" if I had to live in the Mid-West.

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#100088 - 07/12/12 05:55 AM Re: Mantaray:Medlite Prisma 3.5x & lighting ?s [Re: Michael Bono]
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Michael, what was the case of "Judge Judy" suing?

And why would you "die" if you had to live in the Mid-West? wink

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#100094 - 07/12/12 01:43 PM Re: Mantaray:Medlite Prisma 3.5x & lighting ?s [Re: ekade]
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ha ha ha ... you are really wanting me to get myself in trouble here? (Of course, I did mention it didn't I?)

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#100121 - 07/13/12 12:38 PM Re: Mantaray:Medlite Prisma 3.5x & lighting ?s [Re: Michael Bono]
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Bono, I'm thoroughly convinced that every electrologist has loads of funny stories to tell. Half the crap I hear about from my electrologist i don't believe
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#100124 - 07/13/12 03:34 PM Re: Mantaray:Medlite Prisma 3.5x & lighting ?s [Re: iLikeDIY]
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Well as an old guy once said: "Some of my fondest memories didn't really happen!"

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