How to find an electrologist in your area

Posted by: LAgirl

How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/07/06 09:41 PM

pasting a post from an electrologist on another forum which should be VERY helpful to all here:

The following are different suggestions for consumers to consider when shopping for an electrologist. Please keep in mind that being licensed, being certified, nor being a member of an association is a guarantee that an electrologist is the electrologist for you, but it's a step in the right direction when beginning your search. Being licensed or certified usually includes mandatory continuing education, always a plus. Being a member of an association, especially a member that attends meetings and seminars, indicates an extra effort on the part of the electrologist to be on top of what's going on in the world of electrology.

Word of mouth is the best way to begin the search for an electrologist, but it can be difficult to find someone willing to admit they've had electrolysis.

Currently, only 34 states in the US regulate the practice of electrolysis. To check the status of your state, go to http://www.electrology.com/licensingoverview06.pdf

I imagine that all the licensed states require that the license be displayed. Look for it, and also look for the expiration date. Even in licensed states, there will always be those who try to get away with working w/o a license. Sometimes it's because they don't want to pay the fees and sometimes it's because they haven't met the educational requirements. Whatever the reason, it's not fair to those who follow the rules and a danger to consumers.

There are also voluntary certifications. They include CPE-Certified Professional Electrologist, CCE-Certified Clinical Electrologist, and CME-Certified Medical Electrologist. The CPE and CCE are on the same level, just sponsored by different national associations. The CME is the next step up from CCE. You must be a CCE to test for CME. CME is for those electrologists who also do laser hair removal.

I strongly believe that every electrologist should belong to at least one electrology organization. Professional associations are our main source of current information in this profession. Associations exist on local, national, and international levels. Most have websites or newsletters to keep members updated on our profession. They also have membership directories which aide consumers when shopping for an electrologist.

IGHRS-International Guild of Hair Removal Specialists began as an organization to aide consumers. In the 1970's worthless tweezer type devices were popping up in salons across the country claiming to be permanent. Consumers were being scammed. The Guild was formed to take on these fraudulent devices on behave of the consumers. Since then, the Guild has evolved to also include educational seminars for the electrology community.
http://www.ighrs.org

SCMHR-The Society for Clinical and Medical Hair Removal began as an electrolysis only association, but now also embraces laser hair removal. SCMHR sponsors the CCE and CME certifications. www.scmhr.org

AEA-American Electrology Association was formed in the 1950's to work toward regulating electrolysis. AEA has been instrumental in helping many states obtain legislation. AEA sponsors the CPE certification. www.electrology.com

COPE-Canadian Organization of Professional Electrologists. This is the only Canadian association I can think of offhand. http://www.electrolysis.ca/

If there are any large organizations that I've omitted, please let me know. There are too many state associations to list each one.

There are 2 sites that have not been maintained in years. Originally the electrologist was to pay yearly to be listed, but I personally only paid for one year, and have been on there for at least 5 years.

www.wrope.com Worldwide Registry of Professional Electrologists and http://www.electrolysisreferral.com Electrolysis Referral Directory. Both of these sites list the names of electrologists in my state that retired long ago. I just mention these sites as another option.

There is one more site I want to mention. It's called, "Electrologists on the 'Net Who Treat Men." It is free to be listed, but it's a very valuable site. Even men who are not seeking genital hair removal seem to have a difficult time finding an electrologist who will treat them. This site has generated more business for me than any of the associations or paid sites combined. http://www.laseawayhair.com/Electrologists.htm

The bulk of my business comes from an ad I run weekly in the local newspaper and the yellow pages. Those clients rarely educate themselves on hair removal before they call me. The fact that you are reading this means you are an educated consumer. I wish I had more clients like you!
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/07/06 09:47 PM

CPE's who don't have CCE's are also allowed to take the CME exam, but the goal of the test is to test for LASER.
Posted by: MorganPerry

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/18/07 01:01 AM

Some states are also trying to make their training requirements retroactive. California for example is trying to make their school training hours count in other states.
Posted by: Daisy75

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/19/07 12:54 AM

Hi Lagirl,
I do live in Orange Cty. and would love to try your electrolisyst .
Could you give me the contact information?
I'm willing to drive an hour to get proper treatment.
I would really appreciate it.
Thanks
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/19/07 02:35 AM

Tina Reynolds in Westwood. you can google her. There are many electrologists in Orange County and nearby there though. I don't think it's necessary to drive all the way out here. I heard of a few in Torrance. There is a mother daughter team I think. If you use the links above, there are a bunch you can check out. just do a few consultations and you can find some good ones. Also, try using the search feature and you can find previous posts with recommendations possibly closer to you.
Posted by: Marthajoy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/19/07 06:43 AM

Just a little bit of information. Long Beach, California happens to have a electrology school, called American Institute of Education. It is possible to help students get their hours in under the watchful eye of very trained teachers for just a few dollars. You can also have your electrolysis performed with the use of Apilus Platinum machines which retail for $9000 each, as they have a large number of them.
You just might wish to consider going to them.

Martha Montgomery
Posted by: hairman2

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/03/07 10:01 PM

What is a Registered Lectrologist and a Licensed Electrologist?
How does that compare to CPE, CCE, CME?
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/03/07 10:19 PM

The search feature on the word "Certifications" would have turned up this post string:
http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads...=true#Post33202

and this one:

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads...h=true#Post1832

And lots more where that came from.

so go on, give it a try, that little search button is right on the right side of the page my friends.
Posted by: dbel

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/04/07 03:22 PM

The link to the AEA website needs to be updated. As of July 2006 licensure became mandatory in the state of Illinois. We worked very hard to get this law passed, and are very proud of it. Buyer beware....there are some electrologists currently practicing who say they are licensed but in fact are not and are practicing illegally. Always check the ifpdr.com website to look up the name of the electrologist.
Thanks,
Debbie
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/04/07 03:26 PM

Funny thing is, the immediate past president of the AEA is in Chicago and was president when the change came.
Posted by: dbel

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/04/07 03:41 PM

I will notify AEA about the update. I'm not sure if Gerry was retired at that time or not.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/05/07 02:07 AM

Gerry announced the licensure change to the convention in Las Vegas that year when it happened.
Posted by: alli

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 06/17/07 06:17 AM

can anyone recommend a good electrologist in Portland, Oregon? I am very worried about scabbing and scarring and had a bad experience with an electrologist when I lived in CA. Is it possible to do it on the chin/ under chin and neck area WITHOUT scabbing and or scarring? Does scabbing just have to be acccepted? I have a hard time not plucking some hairs so will I still see progress if I occassionally pluck in between treatments? Your help is greatly appreciated. I have some dark hairs but scattered amongst lots of blonde thick hairs that drive me even crazier.
How do I find out if I have an androgen problem? What tests do I ask for and what kind of Dr. do I see? Is it an endrocrinologist or will a dermatologist work also? Does thyroid play a role?
I had my testosterone tested years ago and it was on the high end of the normal range. Does that mean it is ok as long as it doesn't go OVER the high mark in the normal range?
Sorry for so many questions. I feel so lost , frustrated and embarassed.
Sincerely appreciative,
Jallison
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 06/17/07 11:15 AM

You should not worry so much about temporary scabbing. Most scabbing has more to do with clients who don't practice proper aftercare, and even then it goes away pretty quickly. Just use your Tea Tree Oil overnight, and you won't have to worry.

As for an electrologist,I would start my search with these people:

Jaimee T. Bloom CPE
Wendy E. Dillon CPE
Barbara Failing CPE
Sheila K Ahern CPE

Now go back to your edit profile page and put your location in! It really helps people to help YOU having that info pop up next to your screen name.
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 06/17/07 09:31 PM

you should see an experienced endocrinologist to get tested for PCOS or other hormonal imbalance issues.

scarring is not normal. check out several electrologists and get sample treatments to find the right one. also, make sure to use proper aftercare to speed up healing and minimize scabbing.

you absolutely CANNOT pluck in between treatments. that will hinder your progress and you will goign in forever. You can only shave between treatments. Also, you should try to go in as often as possible in the beginning to get to your first clearance and then go in as soon as new hair pops up (so you have a better chance at killing it right away, when it's still weak) in order to be done as fast as possible.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 06/18/07 12:42 AM

Scarring is not normal and is unacceptable.
Scabbing, however is normal and should be very short term.
Posted by: furrydesi

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/12/07 07:24 AM

After considering laser as the only option for facial hair removal, I'm looking seriously into electrolysis. Today I met with the only licensed electrologist in my area (I live about 2 hours away from Chicago). Could y'all help me evaluate her?

I'm still trying to figure out what was going on because she was a little flighty and very disorganized in her consultation - a very chatty Cathy and I came out feeling confused in more than one way. She has 10 years of experience, is AEA licensed, is experienced in all three techniques, scabbing doesn't happen with her, clients and colleagues alike are amazed with the efficiency of her work, etc.

However, she stated a philosophical preference for the galvanic method, said that hairs will repeatedly regrow after treatment (within a couple of weeks) warranting weekly treatments over a couple of years, and was incredibly vague about any ballpark number of sessions or even hours for first clearance. She also made some dramatic statement that "you can't kill hair without damaging the skin" which I didn't fully understand. These all appear to contradict some of the things I have read on here. Have I been reading wrong or is something wrong with this picture?

Ultimately, I understand that as flighty as she was, it's her skill with the needle (and the foot pedals) that's more important. Aside from her indecipherable attempts at impression management, how is she sounding? She wouldn't do a complimentary trial run (she charges $40/30 min). If I had her do a couple sessions (she's the only gig in town), how would I know if she's doing good?

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p.s. I do appreciate that these things vary by the individual, but it was frustrating that she couldn't (or wouldn't) throw out a few numbers--and yet felt that anecdotes of blonde-haired clients would somehow be informative.

p.p.s. I'm between a Type III to IV South Asian female with some induced hair growth by previous laser treatment. For now I'm trying to remove hair in the jaw area (probably 100 coarse hairs, 200-300 finer hairs), and eventually upper lip, cheek and forehead.
Posted by: Arlene R. Batz, CPE

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/12/07 11:53 AM

I won't focus on what the electrologist "said" because heresay is uncomfortable for me to address but:

Hairs do not necessarily regrow, hairs cycle in and you need to be patient as much of the hair that grows needs about a year to present itself. As follicles are treated to prevent further growth, you will see fewer hairs so results are immediate.

If the tech. has a preference for Galvanic and that is your only choice, then try it. Personally, I think it is too time consuming but I have met the rare client who insists on it and I will do it only if the hairs are thick and growth is sparce. Since your growth is within small areas, galvanic would be my last choice. Scabbing might or might not happen. As long as they are pinpoint in size, its okay. You can treat the follicles and cause some tissue traumma (edema and erythmea) but its temporary and if she views this as "damaging the skin" then so be it.

Remember, initial clearance and consistant treatments will get you finished faster.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/12/07 12:37 PM

And the fastest way to initial clearance is MicroFlash Thermolysis.
Posted by: furrydesi

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/12/07 06:22 PM

Thanks for your responses everyone. It's good to hear that I wasn't completely mistaken in my understanding that consistent treatments are necessary due to staggered hair cycling rather than regrowth of the same (treated) hairs. Ordinarily I would have asked her to reconcile her understanding with mine, but at that point of the 1-hour consultation I figured she'd only respond defensively. And no one wants to alienate the only electrologist in town!

What concerns me most is her theory of repeated treatments and treated-hair regrowths. I'm trying to figure out whether this is due to a (mistaken) belief that the regrowth is from the same hair treated (versus different hairs cycling in), or whether she is actually under-treating the hairs. I understand that this is hard for you to speculate about, but it would help me strategize how to best work with her. That is, if it sounds like she's treating the hairs just fine, then I'll play along and give her a few tries. On the other hand, if it sounds like she's under-treating, I'll have to figure out how to subtly advocate for a more effective course of treatment (whatever you guys think that is).

Okay, so she talked about having a careful hand to be sure that treated hairs slide out with no resistance. To me that sounds like an indication of proper treatment. But despite this, could she also be using too little power in a single treatment to actually permanently 'kill' the hair? She was quite insistent that a single hair needs multiple treatments (my guess is 20-30) to permanently disable regrowth, and seemed to take pride in her clients never having horrible skin reactions.

Regarding galvanic v. thermolysis: She never actually got around to naming her preferred method, I only assumed galvanic given her critique of thermolysis. She had explained that although she could clear the hair twice as quickly with thermolysis, the regrowth rate was twice as fast as her preferred method (again, note her understanding of regrowth above), which would then require twice as many sessions. To her that indicated that thermolysis under-treats follicles, and she explained to me that the upper layers of the epidermis absorb much of the heat energy resulting in less treatment of the hair's root. However, she was open to doing it if the client desired.

Can MicroFlash thermolysis be done with a foot pedal setup? I forgot to write down the name of the machine she uses, which does galvanic, blend and thermolysis. She explained that it was the most expensive machine on the market when she bought it 10 years ago, and at the time most popular with prominent electrologists. The name had "blend" in it.
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/12/07 07:14 PM

I would do a sample 15 min treatment with her and look for the following:

-do the hairs slide out without resistance after being zapped?
-does she use proper magnification?
-what method is she using to get you to your first clearance? how's her speed?
-how does your skin look post-treatment and how does it heal (given proper aftercare of course)

Electrologists are often wary of giving precise numbers when it comes to treatment completion because there are just too many factors involved, that don't necessarily depend on them. however, in most cases, if they do give a number, THEY will be the ones who will get blamed if you're not finished by then. These factors involve how consistent you are in your treatments and committed to getting a bunch of treatments up front to clear the area (better with thermolysis btw at this stage, even if you switch to galvanic afterwards when you know for a fact you're treating just the anagen hair that just came out), underlying medical conditions, etc.
Posted by: furrydesi

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/13/07 04:46 PM

Thanks, I will give her a 30 min session try. So as long as the hair slides out easily, she's treating properly?

I think I'm understanding why thermolysis for first clearance is a better idea: since it removes hair more quickly than galvanic, you're paying for less time clearing hairs that might be mainly telogen hair (which are less effectively 'killed'). Right?

One thing I'm still trying to make sense of is what she meant when she said that hair regrows after 1 week with thermolysis but after 2 weeks with galvanic. I'm assuming she meant that for areas where regrowth is ordinarily quick, such as a man's beard, but why would the techniques yield different regrowth rates?
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/13/07 05:36 PM

you are correct on the first statement.

in terms of her other statement, i suspect there was some miscommunication. a hair cannot generate and grow out in 1 week. it has to be a NEW hair. if the exact same hair appears (hard to tell), then it likely broke off on its way out.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/14/07 11:45 AM

Anyone who performs thermolysis who thinks it has that much more of a regrowth rate doesn't understand that the efficacy of thermolysis is all about practitioner skill. If one gets the treatment energy correct, and the insertion correct, it is exactly as effective as galvanic and blend. What you don't have with thermolysis is the higher tolerance for IMPROPER insertions and near misses.
Posted by: furrydesi

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/14/07 01:29 PM

Alright, thanks all for your helpful responses. I will have a try when I get back into town and report back (no doubt with more questions :-) )
Posted by: Steve & Cathy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/04/07 03:59 AM

Hi I am looking for a recommendation for an Electrologist in New Hampshire. My wife has already had Laser but outside the US and we are looking for an Electrologist as she has very big problems with hyperpigmentation. Plus she will need to get her face done which is finer hairs and the laser might not be worth doing as teh hairs are quite fine but dark.
We have been out of the US for quite a few years now and if anyone has any good experiences in the Concord NH area that would be best for us. We are looking for Thermolysis and someone mentioned microflash but I am uncertain as to what that is. She has a lot of facial hair and really wants it gone.
I looked at the directory but would like to see if anyone has any personal comments about any of teh places.
Thanks
Steve & Cathy
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/04/07 06:02 PM

I'm hoping with you that someone in New Hampshire will give you a personal recommendation. We'll see what happens. If no one responds then you need to do the chore of making a list of practitioners close by and then going in for consultations and short treatments.

I remember you from another forum and I won't mention the country you were located at the time because you haven't mentioned it here yourself, but I'm curious if you ever found an electrologist there. I remember you said there was a lot of laser locations, but the electrologist side of things looked dim. Did Cathy have laser performed on her face or was it just body work?

Microflash thermolysis is a variation of thermolysis (heat destruction). It is high intensity and very short timing, well under a second. It can only be performed using a computerized epilator and the electrologist must be very skilled and focused to perform this modality correctly. It is an excellent way to remove hair, any size hair on any color of skin because it is lightening fast, something that would please you both because she has lots of fine dark hair. When I say it is fast, I am saying that you can get the hair cleared and keep the hair cleared until there is no more hair to treat. With consistent appointments, timed to get anagen hair, you can expect permanency in 9-12 months at the best. You may need a few additional months if there are more than the usual hurdles to jump.

Now let's hope that someone comes forward to share the good news about their practitioner from the Concord area.

Dee

Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/04/07 06:45 PM

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/75/page/1 - from this forum's directory.

it's hard to get answers to a post like this as by the time someone from NH might read it, it will be very far from the main page. either way, you should post a NEW thread with this question in case that DOES happen. however, your best bet is to call all the electrologists you can find and ask what machine and method they use, how long they've been practicing, etc.

microflash is a faster type of thermolysis. either regular thermolysis or flash will be fine for her, as long as the practitioner knows what they're doing. you would be able to tell after sampling several electrologists and following recommendations here (i.e. not feeling plucking, good post-treatment reaction etc)
Posted by: Steve & Cathy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/04/07 08:30 PM

 Originally Posted By: dfahey
I'm hoping with you that someone in New Hampshire will give you a personal recommendation. We'll see what happens. If no one responds then you need to do the chore of making a list of practitioners close by and then going in for consultations and short treatments.
I remember you from another forum and I won't mention the country you were located at the time because you haven't mentioned it here yourself, but I'm curious if you ever found an electrologist there. I remember you said there was a lot of laser locations, but the electrologist side of things looked dim. Did Cathy have laser performed on her face or was it just body work?
Microflash thermolysis is a variation of thermolysis (heat destruction). It is high intensity and very short timing, well under a second. It can only be performed using a computerized epilator and the electrologist must be very skilled and focused to perform this modality correctly. It is an excellent way to remove hair, any size hair on any color of skin because it is lightening fast, something that would please you both because she has lots of fine dark hair. When I say it is fast, I am saying that you can get the hair cleared and keep the hair cleared until there is no more hair to treat. With consistent appointments, timed to get anagen hair, you can expect permanency in 9-12 months at the best. You may need a few additional months if there are more than the usual hurdles to jump.
Now let's hope that someone comes forward to share the good news about their practitioner from the Concord area.
Dee


Yes we have posted on the other Forum regarding lasers. We are currently in the Philippines but we will be moving back to teh US around Januaryy or so.
Electrolysis is just not done here. The place that does the laser for us also does electrolysis and it's a galvanic unit with a single probe and I'm certain no one theer knows how to operate it very well snce it seems they use it primarily to encourage laser hair removal as electrolysis is just too painful.
Gotta admit doing 1 hair at a time with a single probe would take a very long time.
No chance of getting electrolysis done here not even in Manila.
Cathy just had teh Bikini area done and is still undergoing treatment this last time she was pretty badly burned. The techs heer really don't know anything and my suggestion was to set the pulse to 20ms and 30 joules on the Lightsheer but it seems that while she can handle a 30ms pulse and 30 joules. She can't handle the 20ms pulse. It's been 6 days and the blisters are still bad and the scabs are still pretty black and there is open raw flesh where the scabs have come off.
Thankfully she has a fairly high pain tolerance.
We will finish up the laser but at a lower setting. Once we are in the US I will just have her use electrolysis. Laser woks but with her skin the hyperpigmentation problems would make her face a nightmare. The test spot I forget the setting but it wasn't very high lasted 3-4 months on her face!
Scary! Thankfully it was in an out of the way place on her forehead.

Regarding Microflash does it still use a probe? I really want something that's permanant so she doesn't have to go through this any more. She really wants to be hair free but laser just isn't the answer for her.
It doesn't have to be Concord NH but something within driveable distance would be ideal.
Theer are many paractitioners in the Concord NH area but no idea about if they are any good.
I'm hoping electrolysis will be less painful for her as the burns from the laser take about 2 weeks to heal.
Electrolysis should not need such a long recovery time.
I'm hoping someone comes through for us.
Thanks for the info
Steve & Cathy
Posted by: Steve & Cathy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/04/07 08:39 PM

 Originally Posted By: lagirl
http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/75/page/1 - from this forum's directory.
it's hard to get answers to a post like this as by the time someone from NH might read it, it will be very far from the main page. either way, you should post a NEW thread with this question in case that DOES happen. however, your best bet is to call all the electrologists you can find and ask what machine and method they use, how long they've been practicing, etc.
microflash is a faster type of thermolysis. either regular thermolysis or flash will be fine for her, as long as the practitioner knows what they're doing. you would be able to tell after sampling several electrologists and following recommendations here (i.e. not feeling plucking, good post-treatment reaction etc)


Thanks, we are new to this forum and I gave up on electrolysis when I found it wasn't available in the Philippines where we are currently living. My work contract is up here soon and I will be going back to the US.
I'm going to have to study all about electrolysis like I did with laser but Laser in the Philippines is not exactly the way to go. It's cheaper for the same machine by far but the techs often have little idea of what they are doing and know very little about the machines and many places even affliated ones get nervous about using the machines on any setting that would be effective.
I wanted Cathy to use electrolysis but they just don't do it here so when we get back to the US we will get it done there.
How should I post a question so that it will be seen? Also I want to post it in the correct area. I will study up on thermolysis and microflash and see if Ican figure it out. Cathy isn't very good with technical things.
Thanks for your help
Steve & Cathy
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/04/07 11:13 PM

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/1

click "Post New Topic" at top left.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/05/07 02:38 AM

Steve,

To answer one of your questions, microflash thermolysis uses one probe, same as the blend method,which is an awesome modality, too. A skilled electrologist can clear a lot of hair and get to a first full clearance much faster with flash or microflash thermolysis. Most clients find they can tolerate microflash better than other methods if the insertions are good. A skilled electrologist can find levels that individual clients can tolerate. So, the hard part really, is finding a good practitioner.

Please do read all you can. You sound like a good researcher and that's the way you need to approach permanent hair removal. Cathy needs relief as soon as possible. A quicker method of electrolysis, like microflash thermolysis, in my view is essential for Cathy if she has a lot of fine dark hair on her face. This method will give her hope, but she stills needs to stick with the plan for 1-1 1/2 years, generally speaking, as electrolysis is a process. Understand all you can about this and success will come.

Welcome to the hairtell family and feel free to vent or ask other questions.

Dee
Posted by: Steve & Cathy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/06/07 10:52 AM

 Originally Posted By: dfahey
Steve,
To answer one of your questions, microflash thermolysis uses one probe, same as the blend method,which is an awesome modality, too. A skilled electrologist can clear a lot of hair and get to a first full clearance much faster with flash or microflash thermolysis. Most clients find they can tolerate microflash better than other methods if the insertions are good. A skilled electrologist can find levels that individual clients can tolerate. So, the hard part really, is finding a good practitioner.
Please do read all you can. You sound like a good researcher and that's the way you need to approach permanent hair removal. Cathy needs relief as soon as possible. A quicker method of electrolysis, like microflash thermolysis, in my view is essential for Cathy if she has a lot of fine dark hair on her face. This method will give her hope, but she stills needs to stick with the plan for 1-1 1/2 years, generally speaking, as electrolysis is a process. Understand all you can about this and success will come.
Welcome to the hairtell family and feel free to vent or ask other questions.
Dee


Thanks Dee, I appreciate all the info you've given me. I will be sure to check into the various methods and hopefully i can get some recommendations about electrologists in the area we will be living in. Microflash sounds like it might work very well for us especially ifthey can clear a fairly large area pretty quickly. I haven't been able to read much on it as most plaxces on Google just advertise their businesses but I'll keep digging. \:\)
We've stuck with Laser for over a year now so I think we will be ok as long as we can find the right people to work with and at a good price.
I know waxing her entire body in the US is just not going to be affordable every 2 months and of course the pain of 2-3 days being able to not do very much isn't an option. As it is they just raised the rates here again to about $40 for an entire body wax and the girl who has been doing it for 1.5 years and is the only good one there is leaving.
Thnaks agin for your help
Steve & Cathy
Posted by: Steve & Cathy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/06/07 10:57 AM

Thanks lagirl I just posted a question on the main board hopefully we will get an answer.
Steve & Cathy
Posted by: hairydude123

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/26/07 07:32 AM

looking for one near santa barbara
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/26/07 05:32 PM

PM James for a recommendation as he knows a known professional in that area or run a search. This isn't the place to post asking for recommendations.

Everyone, please start a separate post with questions!
Posted by: layla

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/07/08 03:23 PM

This topic is nice for info about how to find an electrologist in the states.. But how about internationally?

Could we start a thread dedicated to listing international electrologists for those living and traveling outside the borders of the U.S.A.?

This information is a lot harder to come by than it might seem, especially when it might be in a foreign language. I think A repository of this sort would be very useful.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/07/08 03:26 PM

You know, we always entended that everyone from around the world would participate in this section, we just have had very little participation from those outside the US and Canada.
Posted by: layla

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/07/08 04:44 PM

Hmm.. I wonder if that's because more due to an actual lack of electrologists outside the US and Canada, or because people outside the US and Canada aren't as aware of this website...

In the case of China and Hong Kong, it seems (after a year of searching) to be an actual (utter) lack of electrologists. \:\(
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/07/08 05:37 PM

India and Austrailia seem to lack electrologists as well. Laser and IPL is on every corner throughout the world, but good luck finding a professional electrologist that operates a hygenic office, wears surgical magnification, has great lighting and uses a top of the line computerized epilator. This is a big clue to anyone living in those countries who doesn't have a job and would like to be the most famous person in a particular town/city/province/territory/region/country. Talk about monopolies! A qualified, modern electrolgist would own the hair removal market in some parts of the globe, hands down - book closed.

Dee
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/14/08 03:05 PM

Thanks for the compliments, but are you purposly spamming on a website that clearly poo-poo's this practice? The links are not helpful.
Posted by: Benji_boy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/14/08 03:08 PM

What I always find confusing is that the people that spam seem to think it's a way of advertising. I look at the company their spamming across a forum or part of the Internet and take a mental note of not to trust them if I do for some reason come across them again wink

Dunno if it is just me.

Regards,
Benji
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/14/08 03:15 PM

We highly prefer consumer diaries on their hair removal experiences written over a long time period that coincides with hair growth cycles, rather than phoney-like promotive type posts. Sorry, I can't even understand these links to know if they are phoney promotions for one's self gain. I'm doing a lot of assuming here. Consumers are more savvey these days and thankfully look at posts like this with a very crooked, squinty eye. I admit we are very hard on posters that appear self-servng. It just causes a visceral, protective reaction when we think we "smell" a rat. I apologise if my instincts are wrong, feelyou.
Posted by: Benji_boy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/14/08 03:38 PM

Looking at the sites more closely - the second site, if I'm correct, is a information site on beauty processes, although it does look suspicously like it's advertising a certain procedure over others. For example, enzymes in certain products for slimming, medical procedures for cellulite, as well as a lot of other things. Although I'm not 100% sure as my French is that good.
The third link is a site a promoting a tgype of Internet phone, which apparently means you can make "Cheaper calls".

Yet, funnily enough the first link to a hair removal site or clinic (this is a guess looking at the URL) doesn't work, despite being the most relevant here. I think your right Dee about the spamming, although if I am wrong, I apologise as well.

Regards,
Benji
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/14/08 06:48 PM

I would advise y'all not to click on the links. That's why they post here. Clicks help their purpose as they get paid per click.
Posted by: vagrl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/28/08 03:08 AM

Hello. I only can find two elctrologist in my area, frederickburg VA. Can anyone help? This one lady wants to do VPL(variable pulse light) first and then finish up with electrolysis, this is for my chin, neck and sideburns. Is this a good idea? Thanks!
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/28/08 04:18 PM

I would use electrolysis on my face from start to finish no matter how much hair you have. It works. I don't know what her set up and skills are like for electrolysis. If she has a computerized epilator, good magnification glasses and quality lighting, she can whiz along just beautifully to remove your hair in a matter of hours. A modern electrologist can remove anywhere from 400- 800 hair per hour on an area if they use microflash or picoflash thermolysis with a great brand epilator. It's just awesome. If she doesn't have this kind of electrolysis set up, then I can see shy she is offering VPL in addition to electrolysis. This will be more costly, I assume. How much are the VPL treatments and how many do you need?

Can you explain what you understand about VPL and why you think it will kill hair permanently?

Dee
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/28/08 10:49 PM

Unless you have a full beard and very coarse hair and lots of it, do electrolysis from the start. And if your hair is very coarse and plentiful, then I would only consider a true laser, not VPL.
Posted by: vagrl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/28/08 11:59 PM

I went back and talked to her today. She said she would rather me do VPL on my chin and neck because I have been plucking there and that hair is thick and dark. Then she would finish whatever did not take with electrolysis. If I did electrolysis first, she said, it might take more than one try. Then on my side burs, lip and jaw/cheek she would do electrolysis because I have never touched this hair before and it is softer and better for elctrolysis. She uses the blend machine. For VPL she she is charging me 250 for chin and neck. For the rest it is $1.50 for every minuet, and she does 10-12 hairs a min.Is the price accurate? She explained that VPL would hit the hair at the root and the hair would fall out, because it was shedding.


My main concern is looking like I have a beard growing when the hair starts growing back (in between treatments). But She said once she hit the hair with electrolysis the hair should not come back and it would not be visible. What should I expect in between treatments?

LA girl, why shouldn't I do VPL? She said laser might leave marks.....
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/29/08 12:05 AM

Electrolysis will hit the hair at the root and it can be killed the first time if it is a growing hair. You are going to spend a lot of money for this strategy.
Posted by: vagrl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/29/08 12:42 AM

what do you mean if it is a growing root? The hair she is doing with electrolysis is hair I have not touched. What strategy would be better? I really appreciate any and all help....I am more worried about getting rid of the hair and the in between treatment looks/affects rather than the money. Though, i would like to know if her price is reasonable......
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/29/08 03:48 AM

It means, is the hair in the growing phase as oppossed to the resting/shedding phase. Both electrolysis and light-based systems need growing hairs in order for those hairs to be affected, as in "killed".

I think she will be doing electrolysis eventually for many of those hairs you describe, that's why I suggested just starting electrolysis from start to finish and then you will be paying for electrolysis only, the sure thing. Many electrologists can clear a lot of hair on a woman's face within one or two longer treatment sessions if they have modern equipment and skill. It is really no big deal to get first, full clearance, under these conditions. I just don't see where a VPL has to be introduced into the mix. Are you paying $250 for temporary removal with the VPL?

If she is doing blend, you will be okay. It works. What really works well is microflash and picoflash thermolysis, but if she has not come into this era of electrolysis care, then first, full clearance will take longer to achieve. With electrolysis, you just need to clip or shave in between treatments to disguise the hair. No need to wait for shedding to occur.

Clients would not need to think about light-based systems if there were more microflash/picoflash thermolysis practitioners available. Someday, there will be.

Can you explain your understanding of VPL and if you know that it will permanently remove your hair?? Can you ask her for female references that have had their facial hair treated with VPL with satisfaction post one year or more?

Have you consulted with other electrologists in your locale to see what their set up is so you can make a good decision?

Dee
Posted by: vagrl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/29/08 08:17 PM

We do not have many in our area. I had a constulation with someone that does laser, and I talked to another elcrtolysis as well, but more about price. I like the lady I have decided to do it with. I met with her twice so far to talk about it, she gave me her number to call her anytime I have a question. She is not pressuring me to make an appointment. I think I am more pressuring myself.

From what i have read and what she told me, VPL will get rid of about 75% of the hair and then I can do elctolysis on the other 25%. It' kinda like IPL.Once she zaps it, the light should burn the root. The hair that was growing will fall out/shed. Since I have been plucking, she said, I have made the hair on my chin and neck harder to do with elctrolysis.

The other hair, on my sideburn and lip and jaw line have never been touched, they are softer. But, since I have never touched them does that mean they are in the resting stage?

If I should do elctrolysis on everything, I will. My chin and neck hairs have been plucked for about 5 years. I am olive colored with dark hair....Thank you for all your help!
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/29/08 10:01 PM

vagrl,

I just cannot agree with her comment about the strong hair on your chin being harder to do with electrolysis. It's quite the opposite. There are many electrologists that can put that hair a way for good. I'm sorry if she feels she can't handle those chin hairs. All I can say is that I am not a fan of using light-based systems on a woman's face. I have seen too much and have cleaned up the messes and unfullfilled promises of too many women that have used light-based systems on their faces to advise you otherwise. I think you will be spending more money than you need to and I don't see how the VPL will even affect the sideburns, lip and jaw line, since those hairs are softer.

I don't want to confuse you on this one, but you are here asking for help. It sickens me to think that there are not enough qualified electrologists to serve people like you. I worry about your skin color and wonder if you are gambling on having more hair stimulated by the VPL.

Can you ask her for client references so you can talk to people that were successful with this same strategy on olive skin like yours.

If you follow through with this plan and are happy one full year after having the last treatment, then I will be happy with you. I think electrolysis will be responsible for your permanent hair removal though, not the VPL.
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/30/08 01:04 AM

some things she's saying are inaccurate. Of course, they're not unbiased as she's selling you a service. here are my thoughts:

- Blend is not the fastest electrolysis method. I doubt she can do 10-12 hairs per minute with it. This method requires that the pulse be held with each zap for around 15-20 secs. Only thermolysis method can be that fast, and mostly with the newer microflash or picoflash types.

- VPL is not the best type of machine. If you do do laser treatments, true laser machines get better results faster. Also, the reason it's not recommended to do your face with this even on coarse hair is because it's hard to target only that hair and it will ultimately touch the finer hair around. And that can cause the finer hair to get more coarse and dark.

- There is no difference in terms of side effects when treating with VPL, IPL or laser. All can cause burns in the wrong hands. In good hands, there are no side effects at all. Same applies to electrolysis. Though, VPL and IPL have more potential for burning - explanation in the FAQs below.

- $250 is a very high price just for those areas.

- I would recommend you look for another electrologist, preferably one that uses thermolysis.
Posted by: vagrl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/30/08 02:50 AM

I will call a few more places tomorrow, even if they are a bit farther. She was only going to do VPL on my chin and neck, and electrolysis on everything else. She said if I really wanted, she would do electrolysis on everything, but she recommended VPL for chin and neck at first. I will call tomorrow and ask for a female reference or two.

LAgirl, the 250 was for four sessions, it would be about 60 a session, is that still too high?

I am suppose to start on my sideburns saturday with her, but I will check around first. I really appreciate your help.....I am nervous as ever.
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/30/08 03:25 AM

If you really want the most for your money, I would look for an electrologist using thermolysis method in your area instead. It will be a lot faster. And if they're using a newer epilator, they'll be able to perform both blend and thermolysis anyway.

$250 for 4 session is around $65. It's not too bad, though you can get true laser for that price.

In my opinion, it's best for you to find the best possible option whether it's laser or electrolysis, not go with the first one you happened to find.

Also, can you please start a new thread? This thread is meant to help people find places in their area.
Posted by: Carmen

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 06/15/08 04:31 AM

To anyone who currently lives in the Toronto GTA area , I am warning you that Bay Street Clinic Electrolysis is merely a scam place . I recently went to a new electrolysist on friday who even noticed that the previous technician was merely plucking me for 60 bucks and doing a poor job on removal . So if you want to really save your money go to smartlaser.ca and you can get laser/electrolysis done by a trained professional whose had this business for over 40 yrs . If you wish to be ripped off then please by all means go to Bay Street Clinic
Posted by: jamesfm34

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/15/08 06:32 PM

New to the site and have been shopping around for the cheapest place in the Houston Tx area for permanant laser. Does anybody know of any training schools or locations the problem is i have alot of area to do like my whole body lol kinda like werewolf man I have also thought about an at home system but dont wanna get ripped off which i heard there are alot in this field. Any help or advice is welcome thanks! Anybody know how good LB500 works?
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/15/08 07:06 PM

You're posting in the electrolysis, not laser section. You should read the FAQs on laser below first. Cheapest is not what you should be looking for. You need most knowledgeable and effective if you want results for your money.

Once you read the FAQs, you'll know what method, laser or electrolysis, is more appropriate for what area. In general, large areas with coarse hair should be treated with laser. Fine and sparse hair, with electrolysis.
Posted by: wowzers

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/21/08 03:06 PM

As someone who's gone to Bay Street Clinic Electrolysis as well, I have to heartily second Carmen. That woman was plucking me as well, and when I called her on it she gave a really evasive excuse. I stopped going there.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/21/08 03:18 PM

So, you recommend Carmen at Bay Street Clinic Electrolysis. Who was plucking you? Was it someone at another location?
Posted by: Aliciadarling

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/21/08 03:55 PM

Hi Dee:

I think that both Carmen and Wowzers are electrolysis clients
who are saying they were plucked like chickens at Bay Street
clinic. They are giving them 2 thumbs down.

Alicia
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/21/08 04:01 PM

Oh, thanks for helping out on this one, Alicia.
Posted by: john marker

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/19/08 09:36 PM

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Posted by: SMF1

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/21/08 08:21 PM

Can anyone recommend an electrologist in Atlanta?

Thank you.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/21/08 09:46 PM

Try Ahoova Mishael At Mishael's Electrolysis. Her ofice is at 400/ Peachtree-Dunwoody in Atlanta.

400-843-9993
Posted by: SMF1

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/22/08 11:09 PM

Thank you, Dee!
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/22/08 11:15 PM


You are very welcome.

Are you still in the Netherlands??

One of our past posters, "laserhater" recommended this electrologist, so you might want to look up her posts and see what her story is all about.

Dee
Posted by: SMF1

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/24/08 01:59 AM

Hello Dee,

I have just relocated from the Netherlands, so I am doing things "American style" now. : )

Mishael's Electrolysis responded to an email I sent them last night immediately by phone this morning. They have the American Electrology Association and CPE stamps on their site. I am assuming this is a good sign? I am not sure what to look for in the U.S.

I have sent a message to "laserhater" inquiring, so I will see what they come back with.

Thank you again for your help and advice!
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/24/08 02:53 AM

This all sounds very good. It's quite fine to have AEA and CPE intials, but there are a lot of fabulous electrologists that don't have these intials who perform electrolysis superbly.

I'm not sure if "laserhater" even refers to this site anymore. She has received information that helped her through a very difficult time. When she started electrolysis with the aforementioned business, she ended up very satisfied and thanked everyone and more or less told us that she's moving on. So, I hope she responds to you, but thought I would give you some perspective in case she doesn't answer your private message.

Here's her post from 2007:

"Re: My electrolysis after laser triggered growth [Re: laserhater]
laserhater
Major Contributor

Registered: Thu Oct 20 2005
Posts: 132
Loc: Atlanta, GA Hey Everybody,
OK I haven't posted in a while & wanted to check in. After this post, I might not be in again. After completing my electrolysis, I am ready to move on from hair removal and get on with life. I haven't had a treatment in 5 months and haven't had one single hair pop up. My skin looks great. I am so happy and grateful to hairtell & my electrologist.

Thank you to Andrea for starting this site and helping people everywhere. Thank you to James & Dee for your special help and advice for me during this process. I appreciate you all so much.

Also an FYI on the lawsuit against the dermatologist that treated me with LHR without warning me that increased hair growth was a risk: It's a no-go for now. I hit dead end after dead end. It is more important for me to move on than recover any money from them. So, I planned to give a percentage to hairtell when I got that. Since that isn't happening I picked up an extra shift this week and am giving that instead. Hairtell was invaluable to me in my time of need and it is important to show appreciation! Take care everybody!
LaserHater"

Keep checking in and good luck.

Dee

Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/24/08 04:26 AM

What you should be looking for:

- Someone with solid experience
- Someone with a modern computerized machine if possible
- Someone who leaves your skin looking great and where you don't feel hair being plucked, i.e. it slides out without resistance after it's zapped (this is important - get a sample treatment at each place)
Posted by: pangea

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/26/08 06:24 PM

Hi,

Can someone please suggest a good electrologist in the Northern Va (fairfax or around it) area.
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/26/08 06:59 PM

Have you already used the search feature?
Posted by: pangea

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/22/08 12:54 AM

Hi lagirl,

I've used the search feature and I found many people asking for an electrolgist in the area but there weren't many responses.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/22/08 12:56 AM

Would you be willing to travel to Fredrick, Maryland?

Lagirl has departed hairtell for 3.5 MONTHS, by the way.
Posted by: pangea

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/02/08 05:50 AM

Hi dfahey,

Fredrick is too far for me. I want a closer distance since I'm in school full time and can't really afford to drive over an hour away. I am trying to find an experienced electrologist in or around the fairfax, va area
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/02/08 03:09 PM

Okay. Then go to two places:

www.electrology.com and click on 'Find an Electrologist' from your state.

Do a search on the internet 'electrologist's in Fairfax , Virginia'

We are at the mercy of people coming back and reporting their positive experiences on their electrolysis care. We heartily thank the ones who have come full circle. If no one pipes in, you will have to start with a list and and get as many consultatons as you can before you decide who you will trust with skin condition and sensation issues.

Good Luck,

Dee
Posted by: SMF1

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/26/09 12:49 AM

This electrologist is AMAZING! She is truly a miracle worker. Anyone in Atlanta, or in the surrounding area, MUST go to Ahoova Mishael at Mishael's Electrolysis.

She is a professional, and a lovely lady. See gets the job done and knows her stuff. After all my years of battling with hair issues, and trying electrolysis, laser, etc, this is the first time EVER I have seen results.

Ahoova will change your life for the better!
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/26/09 01:12 AM

Well now we have two honest posters, SMF1 and laserhater, testifying and raving about Ahoova Mishael.

This is the very core of why this website works when great people like SMF report back about their results. Yes, electrolysis works when performed correctly by skilled professionals. Thanks SMF1 for taking a few minutes of your time to come back and report that electrolysis is a life changing experience. I need to go backwards and read all your posts and I hope others who disbelieve that there can be an end to the embarrassment they suffer due to unwanted hair, will go back and read your posts and laserhaters posts.

Website for those in the Atlanta area who want to check out good electrologist practioners:

Ahoova Mishael's
Posted by: ale77

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/27/09 01:02 PM

If anyone is looking for an electrologist in Atlantic Canada, you can check out this site:

http://www.aape.ca/index.htm

This site also has links to all other Canadian provinces websites: http://www.fcea.org/
Posted by: Pokka

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/12/09 04:49 PM

Hello,

Can anyone help? I am trying to find a reputable electrologist/electrolysist in the UK. I can travel to any clinic in the Kent area. Thanks.
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/12/09 05:06 PM

Check the BIAE directory
Posted by: Interruptingcow

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/13/09 12:25 AM

Which clinic(s) should I use in the greater Birmingham, Alabama area?

I have already seen this list:

http://www.hairfacts.com/wiki/index.php/Alabama_hair_removal#Birmingham

I also have leaped before looking- thermolysis on my mustache area yesterday, in fact- cut n' pasted from my own blog, which I also cross-posted to a trans forum:

"A dot of blood here and there...
I was told that the multiple short tugs on some hairs were the forceps coming off of a hair that wasn't fully treated yet (and so had to be re-zapped). That in addition to the length of exposure on a handful of the hairs is what made me the most nervous.
Also a bit wigged out over the hairs that she did leave too. Could this be due to concerns over the effect of so much treatment on the skin?

And yes, I should've done a patch test first.

The lady I went to though (A&A Electrolysis- the street sign says "About Face Electrolysis) has been in practice for 35 years and is listed on hairfacts.com...
58 dollars an hour- cost 78 dollars to do my mustache area today (I have enough in the bank to cover at least *that* part of my face for the 15 or so treatments that some say is needed.

And yes, per the title of this entry it was thermolysis. Yeah, I've seen Susan Laird's horror stories ( hairzapper.com) and Andrea James and others counterclaims on the hairtell.com forums.

Strange that I didn't find her exact model of Fischer branded machine on hairfacts (the closest listed was R.A. Fischer's SE-4 blend model- I could just about swear her's was a Fischer EZ-4. I definitely should have written it down.

I'm looking at my still somewhat puffy mostly clear mustache area in the mirror...grumbling over not getting to go anywhere during daylight hours too..."

What I forgot to mention was that she only said to first put ice on the area, then neosporin. She didn't mention anything about staying out of sunlight(!).

If I need to place any of this info seperately in other parts of the hairtell forums please let me know!
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/13/09 04:09 AM

Call clinics in your area and ask what machine and type of electrolysis they're using. Then go in for sample 15 min treatments and see how your skin reacts and how their skills are ( you shouldn't feel hair being plucked for example - they should slide out without much resistance after being zapped). Judge based on that.

Fischer is a known brand. One of the best newest machines is Apilus.
Posted by: VickieCNY

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/13/09 07:56 PM

Disclaimer: It is hard for anyone to judge without actually seeing her work on you, so this is not in any way intended to be a criticism of your electrologist personally. Here is just some personal insight:

Originally Posted By: Interruptingcow

"A dot of blood here and there...
I was told that the multiple short tugs on some hairs were the forceps coming off of a hair that wasn't fully treated yet (and so had to be re-zapped). That in addition to the length of exposure on a handful of the hairs is what made me the most nervous.


You can get a dot of blood a few ways, but it does not always mean a practitioner is not performing competent hair removal. If a hair is deep and has an especially large bulb it can tear the inside of the follicle and cause a dot of blood; you don't know until you zap and pull the hair out if it will happen.
In my experience on both sides of the needle, sometimes the hair slipping out of the tweezers can happen. I have had it happen when the hair is not treated fully, or more commonly when a hair is in telogen and doesn't want to come free. It depends on what kind of tweezers she is using as well.
If she is using traditional ("slow") thermolysis, ask her what the timing setting is. It can take a few seconds, depending on various factors (very roughly, 1-10 sec). If she is using a CB-X, 4 it can perform microflash thermolysis and feels like an immediate on and off zap.

Originally Posted By: Interruptingcow

Also a bit wigged out over the hairs that she did leave too. Could this be due to concerns over the effect of so much treatment on the skin?


Yes.

Originally Posted By: Interruptingcow

And yes, per the title of this entry it was thermolysis. Yeah, I've seen Susan Laird's horror stories ( hairzapper.com) and Andrea James and others counterclaims on the hairtell.com forums.


Although my results are not a scientific study of course, as someone who has had many 100s of hours and 10,000s of hairs treated with thermolysis all over my face and body (flash, microflash and picoflash), I have not had any of the lasting damage that she describes. Again, this is not a scientifically valid study and there any many variables involved in how one's skin reacts, but in my situation is works very well.

Originally Posted By: Interruptingcow

Strange that I didn't find her exact model of Fischer branded machine on hairfacts (the closest listed was R.A. Fischer's SE-4 blend model- I could just about swear her's was a Fischer EZ-4. I definitely should have written it down.


It is probably an SE-4 machine, Fischer never made an EZ-4 that I know of (James?) It could be a Fischer CBX-4 also. It might be a good idea to see what kind of vision equipment she is using as well.

Originally Posted By: Interruptingcow

I'm looking at my still somewhat puffy mostly clear mustache area in the mirror...grumbling over not getting to go anywhere during daylight hours too..."


It is not abnormal with dense, tough hair. My lips swell up like a duck when I have mine done (microflash and picoflash.)

Originally Posted By: Interruptingcow

What I forgot to mention was that she only said to first put ice on the area, then neosporin. She didn't mention anything about staying out of sunlight(!).


I would try the aftercare that James and Dee recommend here (please chime in if I am not correct here.) Pure tea tree oil on the treated area before bed, and pure aloe vera gel twice a day.
Posted by: Night

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/06/09 02:05 AM

I live in an area that has a dearth in electrologist’s. The only one I can find within reasonable distance, I know nothing about. They are listed in American Electrology Association; what exactly can that tell me about their credentials? They are CPE and Modality says SBG. Can someone please explain that to me?
I know that isn’t much info, but do they seen worth my time in checking out?
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/06/09 02:19 AM

Membership in the AEA means they pay good money to show you that they are in the business, and have available to them some ongoing information about what's new in the industry. CPE means they spent at least $1000 to $1500 to go to a convention and take a test to prove that they really now about electrolysis. SBG means they claim to know how to do all methods, ShortWave(thermolysis) Blend, and Galvanic.

Yes, I would think this would be a good person to start one's search. I would not, however, end my search without visiting some others first. For some reason, many people don't take the time to get many consultations and sample treatments before settling in with someone for the long haul.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/06/09 02:50 AM

Yes. SBG means that they can perform all three modalities of electrolysis.
"S" = shortwave thermolysis (destruction by heat)
"G" = galvanic (destruction per chemical means)
"B" = blend (a combination of the above -
destruction with heat + chemical)

Oversimplified, but useful.

CPE means a test was taken and the electrologist has obtained extra credentials from The American Electrology Association. CPE does not necessarily mean that a CPE electrologist is more skilled than an electrologist that has not decided to take the test. Many of us have been trained and tested through our own state licensing board and we are required to take continuing education courses to keep our license active.

In some states, there are no regulations, but in that case, a person who has not taken the time and expense to get an outside certification may still be a good practitioner.

Give it a go with this practitioner. She sounds promising, but you will just have to see. Read all you can here so you go in educated about the process.
Posted by: kh2009

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/04/09 12:50 AM

I am new to electrolysis and live in a state that is not regulated. I found a lady who has been doing this for 40+ years and received certification. I have seen her twice and it has gone ok so far. My concern is that she does not wear gloves and though she said she sterilizes everything, I saw her wiping alcohol on the tweezers. It made we wonder about the probe too. The first time, I saw her take it out of a new package but I didn't see what she did the second time. Is this acceptable? I want the hair removed but I don't want to risk infection.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/04/09 12:27 PM

The standards set forth by the American Electrolysis Association call for hand washing, gloves, sterile disposable probes, sterile forceps (tweezers). If these things are not being done, ask her to do this. Infection is a possibility with the way she is doing this.
Posted by: kh2009

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/04/09 01:05 PM

Thanks Dee. What about her cleaning the tweezers with alcohol? Is that an acceptable sterilization method? Other than that, she did a good job from what I can tell. No obvious signs that anything was done (except less hair).
Posted by: Arlene R. Batz, CPE

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/04/09 06:58 PM

Alcohol does not sterilize.
The tweezers should be sterilized in an autoclave or dry heat sterilizing unit as these units can be tested.
Are you sure the tweezers did not come out of one of these units initially?
Posted by: kh2009

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/04/09 07:02 PM

That is a good question. It's possible they could have. There is a unit that I think is an autoclave that is a big metal box with a door in it-does that sound like what that is? I'm not sure if that could have been used or not. Should I be concerned about the lack of gloves?
Posted by: khiz

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/20/09 01:49 AM

any good referal in Wilmington,DE (or surrounding area)??
Thanks in advance.
Posted by: khiz

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/22/09 01:45 AM

any please?
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/22/09 02:27 PM

On the one hand, washing the hands is good enough, if done correctly. On the other hand, gloves are designed to lessen the risk of sanitation problems between client and practitioner.

Lack of gloves is not a deal breaker, but using them is not just a way to make the practitioner's expenses higher (although there are many things in this industry that really ARE just to increase the practitioner's expenses, and put on a show for you).
Posted by: Barbara_CPE

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/13/09 03:40 PM

Here is an article to help consumers in selecting an electrologist.

http://electrology.com/consumer/selecting_electrologist.html
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/13/09 03:55 PM

Thank you, Barbara! Now this a FAQ! It is much more complete than the original FAQ. Great improvemnet. Everyone should peruse the new American Electrology Association website. I need to take my own advice and will do that in a fortnight.

Dee
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/13/09 03:55 PM

Thank you, Barbara! Now this a FAQ! It is much more complete than the original FAQ. Great improvement. Everyone should peruse the new American Electrology Association website. I need to take my own advice and will do that in a fortnight.

Dee
Posted by: bb8900

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/17/10 06:11 AM

Anyone know of a good electrologist in the Bay Area? Specifically the East Bay?

Thanks
Posted by: roma18

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/21/10 06:07 AM

Ive been seeing Susan Parks with great results so far!
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/21/10 11:58 AM

Would Susan's full name be Susan Feiga Parks?
Posted by: Interruptingcow

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/31/10 07:52 AM

Ok all I got a job in my field in Western Kansas now. Kathy Larsen, the only electrologist that would've been in my area is not at the number listed for her in Dodge City (so said the salon when I called that number). As for the Garden City number, it came up no longer in service. Only now does it come to me to go check the address to see what kind of business it may be or may have been.
Does anyone know of any electrologist I don't have to drive ~at least~ all the way to Wichita or Pueblo, CO for?
Posted by: LaserElect

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/01/10 04:37 AM

LA girl,

The directory linke you gave is a dead link now. http://www.laseawayhair.com/Electrologists.htm

Are they out of business maybe or no longer have the free directory?

Could you double check url you gave please.

Thanks so much,
Posted by: shehe

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/12/10 10:13 PM

Hi!
Could anyone suggest good electrologists in New Jersey or Newyork?
Posted by: roma18

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/12/10 10:15 PM

James I'm not sure! I'll ask her! DO you happen to know her?
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/12/10 10:28 PM

We may have bumped into each other at some seminar or other function. At the least, she knows a very good friend of mine.
Posted by: roma18

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/19/10 10:32 PM

In regards to finding and sampling as many as electrologists in your area Yellowpages.com and Yelp.com are really helpful as well! not sure if it has been mentioned here or not!
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/19/10 11:27 PM

Laseraway was hosted by the people on another hair removal forum which is now defunct. So no, it's not up anywhere else.

I recommend typing in "electrolysis [CITY]" into Google. That will give a long list. Then call each one and ask what they use, etc and go in for a free consultation.
Posted by: Interruptingcow

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/22/10 07:03 PM

Can anyone vouch for Sarah Baker in Birmingham, AL on Highland Ave? Anyway I fill in more about her on my next to last paragraph.

Ok, I made the mistake of going to one of the electrologists at A&A Electrolysis in Hoover, AL after she had spent much of the time she was treating me on her cell phone (!). Yeah, stupid stupid stupid on my part.

I also knew that I was forgetting something but couldn't quite put my finger on it. Then I talked to my mother (who'd had her chin treated by the other lady at A&A) and it came out that the other lady always had her ice the area right afterwards to "...shrink your pores!" (my mom's words).

The one who treated me forgot to remind me to ice afterwards in both instances!

I don't know about you, but I will never use her again. Her staying on the phone while treating me should have scared me off the first time.

Who I am now looking at is Sarah Baker over on Highland Ave. here in Birmingham (Alabama). Her receptionist told me her brand of electrolysis machine is an Instatron but I forgot to ask her which model, what type/brand of probes she uses, and what brand/model of laser she uses.
I'm still only working on my upper lip*, for which the laser price is 50 dollars per treatment, and the electro is a straight 25 dollars for 15 minutes, 40 for 30 mins, 50 for 45, and 60 for an hour.

*- I've posted about this before. Six years ago I had a very dysphoric day where I just started carefully tweezing my upper and lower lip and part of my chin area, leaving the upper lip looking remarkably patchy in re-growth, otherwise I wouldn't even be starting professional removal until I had a much larger nest egg...
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/22/10 07:06 PM

Laser is not a good option for sparse hairs, especially on a woman's face.
Posted by: Interruptingcow

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/22/10 07:20 PM

Ty LAgirl. I can't get any local electro person on the phone right now so I'm just gonna have to go down in person and sign up for an appointment (I'm currently a pre-everything 39 yo mtf- diff hormonal and skin condition from a cis- or long-term postie, but I'll be getting electro then.
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/22/10 08:51 PM

If you have dense coarse dark hair on any area, you can get rid of a bulk faster with laser first and then finish with electrolysis. For any hair that's sparse or fine or both, you need electrolysis from the start.
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Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How To Save $500 To $750 A Year On Hair Removal - 04/23/10 07:18 PM

WoW, all that, and she still forgot to put her location in her profile.
Posted by: giahera

Re: How To Save $500 To $750 A Year On Hair Removal - 04/23/10 07:28 PM

Go to the website. Call or text me. Hi James. Have heard a lot about you, long before I considered getting in the business.

Gia of SoCal
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How To Save $500 To $750 A Year On Hair Removal - 04/23/10 08:37 PM

Hello Gia. Hope you had fun with Johanne and the gang.

Nice to hear that some people think well of me.

Now how do I get a discount on your flight instruction services wink
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How To Save $500 To $750 A Year On Hair Removal - 04/24/10 04:00 AM

Interruptingcow - please start your own thread about your experience. It'll be helpful to you and others.
Posted by: Arlene R. Batz, CPE

Re: How To Save $500 To $750 A Year On Hair Removal - 04/24/10 11:20 AM

Gia,

I wish you success and the best in your new endeavor!
Posted by: saitojohn

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/02/10 08:50 PM

Can anybody recommend a electrologist in Toronto? Can't seem find any relevant information on here!
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/02/10 10:08 PM

Run a search using Advanced Search at the top right.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/03/10 06:24 PM

Check this out, too.


http://www.dectro.com/en/directory/apilus/canada.php
Posted by: PHHHBB

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/16/10 02:24 AM

Can anyone recommend a good electrologist in the Los Angeles area that specializes in male beard hair removals?
Posted by: vanmego

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/17/10 03:41 AM

Can anyone suggest an excellent, inexpensive, clinic in Vancouver BC
Posted by: yuki

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/13/10 01:10 PM

Can someone recommended a good electrologist in Melbourne, Australia?

I know it's a long shot that anyone would know on this forum but it's worth a try...
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/14/10 03:28 AM

Use the search feature here on hairtell. This has been discussed and you should find some good information.
Posted by: inuk

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/17/11 07:25 PM

In case anyone is looking for a good electrologist in Montreal, I recommend Salon Esthetique Therese. It is located in Sherbrooke metro station which is great. There are two electrologists who work there, one is a bit faster than the other but they are both very experienced with 25 and 35 years of experience, respectively.

They also have an Apilus Platinum Pure and a microscope.

I have been going for three months and, after several years of electrolysis and laser, I feel I can confidently recommend this place.
Posted by: inuk

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/17/11 07:25 PM

RE: Vancouver: I don't have a great recommendation for you but if it helps I do not recommend Fairview. Trust me.
Posted by: inuk

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/17/11 07:27 PM

This helped me alot!
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/17/11 09:43 PM

Hugs to you, inuk, for taking the time to recommend two electrologists in Montreal.
Posted by: hairyharrington

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/22/11 11:48 PM

Hi, I have read the other thread for recommendations on electrologists in the SF Bay area. But they are at least a couple of years old. I live in Foster City, CA. I don't mind driving if I have to. I was wondering if I could get any recommendations. Thanks in advance for your reply.

p.s: Indian female, 30 yrs, possible PCOS, chin hair and some on the neck, also looking to get area around the nipples and the adbomen done. Olive skin; dark hair.
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/16/11 10:20 PM

Check reviews on sites like Yelp and have consultations. There is no way to predict who is good. You may not need to drive all the way to Foster City. I believe there are places in Palo Alto and others nearby. You should get sample treatments and just for yourself that they're doing a good job. You shouldn't feel plucking - hair should slide out without resistance.
Posted by: Pp2625

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/10/11 08:44 AM

I dont know if this is the right place but it may help some and get some questions answered for me as well.I live in New Mexico and am new to elec. and have seen 3 diffrent people for a try.
Barbara Saxer, CPE (505)920-9553 Santa Fe, New Mexico
Leslie Mann Calvert R.E. (505)299-9110 Alb. New Mexico
Cynthia Gelfand (505)881-7781 Alb. New Mexico


One of them has only been doing it for 5 years but you can tell she loves what she does..the feeling was not bad when she worked the first 2 hairs she did pulled a bit but she upped the "volt"? and it seemed to help plus her tools are state of the art..new..new..new..there was no redness and scabs formed but went away after about 2 days.
Another one has 32 years under her belt.older tools. she was fast working, very fast, but the side of my face she treated was very red and swollen after, the red went away but the area she treated seems tight (done today)
The Last has 30 years under her.older tools. she is very slow she is more on hair not pulling as it comes out. she zapped the same hairs 4/5 times till it "walked" out as she put it (also i am multi-race so hair curls)but with her no redness (again done today waiting to see how healing works)
can you guys give my any info on these 3 and help who to choose. they were all very nice and helpfull. if you need any more info please let me know.....i am getting my beard done.
Posted by: ILoveCrabs

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/19/11 12:23 PM

Hi, does anyone know of a good electrologist in greater London area/UK. Its for my neck and back. Recommendations would be much appreciated.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/19/11 01:57 PM

If you go to the search box on the top right hand side of the page and type london and hit the enter key, you will get a list of posts that talk about london. I am sure some good feedback on london UK practitio0ners will be found that way. I know we have had some discussion on that.
Posted by: mhawkes

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/24/11 10:51 AM

Originally Posted By: ILoveCrabs
Hi, does anyone know of a good electrologist in greater London area/UK. Its for my neck and back. Recommendations would be much appreciated.


try the british institute of electrolysis, they have a few members in London
Posted by: hannabanana32

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 05/01/11 01:57 AM

Anyone know anyone good in the NY area?
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 05/01/11 02:03 AM

New York is a big state. Where in New York?
Posted by: zipzat

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 05/12/11 03:33 AM

I've been seeing Tony at Jade in Langley. I know they have two locations in Vancouver and a new clinic coming soon to Chilliwack. They may be more expensive than some other electrologists but the technique and options they provide are superb.
Posted by: coates

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 06/08/11 11:41 PM

Are there any good electrologist around Sweden?If not, what options do I have in Europe?

I will move back to EU by the end of the year.
Posted by: IslandHeart

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/14/11 03:39 PM

Does anyone have any recommendations for electrologists in Okinawa, Japan? I am living here and searching for one. I do speak some Japanese, but someone with a knowledge of English would be helpful.
Posted by: C O'Connell

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/14/11 09:28 PM

I know of a Japanese electrologist in Sydney, who may be able to help you. Her name is Tomoko, and she is at Sydney Electrolysis. I also know that electrolysis is very popular there, so there may be several in that locality.
Posted by: IslandHeart

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/14/11 10:38 PM

Thank you! Perhaps she knows some places in Okinawa, Japan as well? I am very far away from Australia (about a 10 hour flight). Thank you for your advice.
Posted by: Sand

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/09/11 11:05 PM

Hi does anyone know of a reputable electrolysis in New York City?

Does anyone have feedback on the following names I have heard of in passing... electrolysis Yuki Arai, Nancy Messenger RN, and Stephanie Fracassa?

Thanks
Posted by: Dani61265

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/09/11 11:24 PM

Does anyone know of one in the Iowa/Illinois Quad Cities area?
Posted by: hairyhead2toe

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/24/11 06:07 AM

Originally Posted By: inuk
RE: Vancouver: I don't have a great recommendation for you but if it helps I do not recommend Fairview. Trust me.


Thanks! i was going to make an appointment for a consult for next week. eek not anymore
Posted by: Cha4ya

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/09/12 08:21 PM

Hi Everyone,

I am not sure if anyone can help me but I live in the Dallas/Ft. Worth area and I have been researching electrolygist. I have found one that I feel good about (Teresa Adam's of Sandra's Electrolysis). Has anyone gone to to her before? If so how was your experience? I have unwanted chin hairs (I am a female and this condition runs in my family - grandmother, mother, aunt etc.) If you have other electrolgist in the Dallas area you can refer me to please give me their name or website. Thank you!
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/10/12 12:36 AM

Ms. Adams uses an Apilus Platinum. There have been comments about her here on HairTell. You can do a search and see for yourself.
Posted by: rita3110

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/18/12 01:30 AM

i have been seeing ms. adams for almost a year now, and i love her... especially the apilus platinum. i almost have no reaction on my skin, at least after a day its really hard to tell i did anything. i started with my face (mainly beach fuzz) and now im also getting underarms,chest and armpits done. i still see her about every one to two weeks. she is always super booked, i think that says a lot already...
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/18/12 06:05 AM

My heart is full! You are in excellent hands and all sounds lovely. Thanks for chiming in about your practitioner.
Posted by: avantegardespud

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/01/12 06:57 PM

Hello there all!! :0)

I'm considering electrolysis for a few areas of random stray hairs on my face and body but don't really know the best way to go about finding a practitioner in my area. I live in York, North Yorkshire and as I'm new to the area don't really know anyone so it's difficult to garner personal recommendations! I've even tried ringing the local hospital to see if they had any links but to no avail unfortunately!

York's within easy reach of Leeds so any recommendations for thereabouts would be great too! :0)

Any recommendations I could find on here would be really gratefully received! Thank you!!!!

Lou
Posted by: koch

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/02/12 03:59 AM

Hi Everybody,

I am new in here and I am a eastern Mediterranean. I would like to learn whether there is any professionals in Virgina/ Fairfax that you can recommend. I am a graduate student and have a tight budget so, I need someone who is really fast as well as efficient. Until now, I have very bad experience with electrolysis professionals, either they slow down the process to earn more or pull out the hair without killing the follicle. Your help is greatly appreciated. Thank you for this forum, I learned a lot from you guys.

Best
Posted by: Barbara_CPE

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/02/12 02:00 PM

Originally Posted By: koch
I have very bad experience with electrolysis professionals, either they slow down the process to earn more or pull out the hair without killing the follicle.


I am very sorry that you had a bad experience, but I really do believe that there are very few, if any, electrologists who would do this on purpose. I believe that there are simply some electrologists who have poor skills - who do not know any better.

Here are some electrologists to try in your area: http://electrology.com/find.html?st=1&am...usa=Find+in+USA

Use the knowledge you have gained on hairtell and check them out!!!
Posted by: Barbara_CPE

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/02/12 02:02 PM

Lou: Here are the NY electrologists who belong to the AEA: http://electrology.com/find.html?st=1&am...usa=Find+in+USA
Posted by: avantegardespud

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/02/12 03:07 PM

grin Hi Barbara! Thank you so much for the reply!! I live in York, UK- not New York unfortunately! I wish!! I shall certainly check that site out though as it seems to have a link for outside of America too!

Many thanks for taking the time to answer! :0)

Lou
Posted by: Barbara_CPE

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/02/12 06:41 PM

Lou, How silly of me! York, North Yorkshire - in the middle of a sentence translated to New York in my brain!!! Glad you looked anyway - hope you find someone!
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/02/12 07:42 PM

Don't you just hate that darned "Auto-Correct"?
Posted by: koch

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/03/12 03:03 AM


Thank you Barbara. I started my electrolysis in the summer of 2010 (forehead), but I did not really have coarse hair, they were just fine and small. She made me stay for 3 hours for electrolysis and all my forehead, eyes and chicks got swollen. In the following three days, I ended up with an upside down triangle face. I was lucky enough not loose my vision. Anyway,in the near future I will post my pictures for you guys to see what I went through. But my last experience with electrolysis exceeded my expectation ( APILUS MACHINE), she was great, but unfortunately she is not living in the USA. So it is very important for me as a tight budget student to find someone in Fairfax who uses this machine and really does his/her job. Thank you again for the information, I will give them a call.
Posted by: Barefootgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/01/12 02:51 PM


Hi Koch,

I live near you. I have been receiving treatment in Fairfax from June Sabonis, but not sure if I am using the best method for removal. Can I ask who did your treatments?

Thanks, BFG
Posted by: koch

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/04/12 03:25 AM


Hi Barefootgirl,

I received my two treatments from metamorphosis( you can search their her web site through google) and I do not remember electrologist name because I was not satisfied with the results and her speed. I think she uses thermolysis.
My last treatment was not in the U.S. , so I may not help you for finding a good professional:S but I suggest you to try different professionals to get an idea about the procedure and effectiveness.
Posted by: in_toronto

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 05/20/12 04:46 PM

In response to a few queries for Toronto practionners seen on here and messages that I've got, I go to Susan Belfer in central Toronto and highly recommend her, http://www.belferbeauty.com
Posted by: Danishguy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/17/12 06:40 PM

Hi, im a guy from Denmark with excessive hair all over my body:( Its beginning to make me feel less about myself and my body. I have a dream of being hair free from cheeks and up, but have a difficult time finding an electrologist here in Denmark. It would mean the world to me, if anybody could help me find or suggest an electrologist. Im willing to travel quite a distance, just to be in good hands smile Please help !

Best regards, Danishguy, DK
Posted by: Michael Bono

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/17/12 06:49 PM

God Dag,

If you can locate Romano Scavo in your country, he will find the right person for you. Romano owned Medtronix and other companies (made weapons systems for NATO) and also made electrolysis equipment for most of the "European brands." Romano was in the Nederlands, but relocated to Denmark (girlfriend stuff). If you cannot find him, let me know because I still talk to Romano.

(Also, look up "Solvang, California" ... you will NOT believe this. This is a tiny town near me — just over the mountains — in the wine country.)
Posted by: Danishguy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/17/12 07:37 PM

God dag;)

Thank you very much for your help, it means so much.

Wow, how amazing it is to see, a danish town in the state of Califonia !?:) Are the native language also danish then??

I have tried to look him up, but cant seem to find him anywhere? It would be a big help, if you would help me locate him:)

Best Regards
Danishguy
Posted by: Michael Bono

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/17/12 08:03 PM

Yes, a lot of people there speak Danish ... but a few of those "damned Swedes" moved in too (ha ha ha), also Norwegians. When I was a kid, I used to work at the big country club up there (Alisal Ranch).

I will check on Romano ASAP.

Farvel!

Do you know who "Storm P" was? Long story here and all Danish. And, I can actually make "Ollebrod!"
Posted by: Danishguy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/17/12 08:56 PM

Haha, so you must speak a little danish then?:)

Thank you very much, i can´t state how much your help is appreciated !

I actually DO know Storm P:) We have a museum in Copenhagen, dedicated just for him. Never been there though smirk

I will be looking forward to your answer Michael, and again thank you very much.

Best regards, Danishguy
Posted by: Michael Bono

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/17/12 11:42 PM

I just contacted Romano (email) and he's living in Bergen (N) and commuting weekly to NL too. He's still making electrolysis units and lasers too, actually.

He said that even laser is not a big business in Denmark because of "all the blond hair." Electrolysis, he said, is mostly for women and faces. He's going to contact me in the morning for an electrologist in your area. Body hair, right?

And yes ... I was totally "into" "Scandinavian" kayaking in my younger days and know all about the development of the Olympic sport. I paddled designs by Sven Thorell (Sverige) and made the boats too, and also had some great wood (Mahogany veneer) Danish
boats (K-1 and K-2) and paddles from Kobberup (up in Struer). An old Dane (J. Lindberg-Hansen taught me how to make wood and fiberglass boats ... and to make Ollebrod too! ... Mine has great big CLUMPS in it, just like the Danish army!)
Posted by: Danishguy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/18/12 10:20 AM

Hello Michael,

Can´t thank you enough for your help. Yes, its mostly body hair but also some facial hair (chins+eyebrowns).

Me myself, am a huge of Kajak(Kayaking). But then again, almost everyone here in DK are !! Its one of the few events at the Olympics we actually excel in! Hah:)

Haven´t had Ollebrod in a couple of years now!? Its so amazing to here someone "over the Atlantic" who knows about this danish specialty. Do you also put whipped cream on top of yours too?;)
Posted by: Michael Bono

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/18/12 01:42 PM

Oh yes, LOTS of whipped cream!

Now, since you are a fellow kayaker, I really have something for you. See, Lindberg-Hansen was also a kayaker (he coached the US Olympic team in the 1950s) and subscribed to “Kanotisten” that has amazing articles that shows the whole history of Danish/Swedish kayaking. Most of the plans of Sven Thorell’s kayaks are in these books and amazing articles from Jörgen Bohm to Max Andersen … mostly from the 1930s to the early 1950s.

Hansen had all these put in book form, and these are either in Danish or Swedish. If you like, send me your home address and I will send you these amazing materials. (Best is to contact me in a private PM, because we are getting WAY off topic here.) I have wanted to put these in “the right hands” for a few years and you are probably the “right guy.” I got all excited so I’m going for a paddle this morning, ocean is nice and flat.

So, what was your question again ... ha ha ha
Posted by: Danishguy

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/19/12 01:07 PM

Wow, i must say, you know your kayaks history Michael ? smile Really impressive, you are almost part Danish! Haha wink

I will send you my home adress Michael, and can assure you they will be in GOOD HANDS!.They will really come in handy, when my whole family (both swedish and danish) sits at the table and argue about, whether Sweden or Denmark has the better Kayaking history or who has made the biggest landmark in recent years! haha .

But back to topic! I´m looking forward to hear from you, about Scavano, i really hope he can help me find an electrologist in my area.

Best Regards
Danishguy
Posted by: Perfection Elect

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/19/12 07:57 PM

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Posted by: essqme

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/19/12 10:05 PM

I am currently searching for a electrologist in the New Jersey area (central and/or South) or possibly the Philadelphia area. Anyone personally know any? I would really appreciate your help.
Posted by: zuls

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/27/12 06:58 AM

Any recommendations in Berkeley, CA? (Or within public-transit distance of Berkeley?)

Thanks.
Posted by: EvaPro

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/06/12 04:11 PM

It's important to use an electrologist that you like. Visit the provider before you set the appointment and make sure you feel comfortable. This person will be up close and personal, so be sure you get to know them a bit first.
Posted by: Hairadicator

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/06/12 04:19 PM

Call dermatologists in your area and see who they recommend for electrolysis.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/06/12 08:42 PM

Originally Posted By: Hairadicator
Call dermatologists in your area and see who they recommend for electrolysis.


Sounds like a great way to get told to just do LASER to me. laugh
Posted by: Hairadicator

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/06/12 11:07 PM

James, not all dermatologists have lasers in their offices nor do all recommend it.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/06/12 11:13 PM

I understand that, however, the majority that I have encountered at least recommend LASER, though they don't understand electrolysis.
Posted by: Hairadicator

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/06/12 11:51 PM

Perhaps many do not understand the specifics of what we do, but they at least have a basic understanding of the process and will recommend their patients to skilled electrologists.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/07/12 01:52 AM

I hope you are correct, and the ones I have met are the exceptions, not the rule.
Posted by: C O'Connell

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/07/12 04:48 AM

From my experience, this only happens, if the patients' visit is regarding a failed laser experience. I have had dermatologist clients,but rarely have referrals from them.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/07/12 07:36 AM

That is my point.
They RARELY refer to electrolysis, even if they have personal first hand knowledge of its merits.

I can tell you a funny story about one who ran out of a supermarket (abandoning a shopping cart of items) when she saw me, in order to avoid the follow up question, "So how did that LASER thing work out for you?"
Posted by: Hairadicator

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/07/12 03:32 PM

Lasers are abundant, in fact they seem to be in every skin care faility and plastics office (in my area), yet two dermatology clincs continue referring their patients to me for electrolysis. Given there are more choices today I doubt electrolysis will ever return to the "glory days" but I see it coming back.
Posted by: yb

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/07/12 08:11 PM

The biggest flaw with electrolysis, as I see it, is the difficulty associated with happening upon the right electrologist who can do the job well. Had it not been so practitioner-dependent, the laser folks would have a much harder time luring people to experiment with lasers in the face of a much more effective and definitive treatment option which is electrolysis.
Posted by: Hairadicator

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/07/12 09:50 PM

The difficulty in finding the right laser practitioner is just as difficult as finding the right electrologist. Laser hair removal is just as operator dependent, but in different ways. Part of the problem has been practitioners in both fields promoting machines instead of their individual skill. Machines are only tools. Even the best technology can produce disasterous results in the hands of an unskilled practitioner.
Posted by: EvaPro

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/07/12 09:56 PM

If you are looking for an inexpensive provider, you can check to see if any of the beauty schools in your area allow students to offer services as part of their curriculum.
Posted by: yb

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/07/12 11:39 PM

Originally Posted By: EvaPro
If you are looking for an inexpensive provider, you can check to see if any of the beauty schools in your area allow students to offer services as part of their curriculum.

In my experience, it's not a good idea. Paying a low rate, you don't even get what you pay for in most cases. It's usually cheaper and always more efficient to see a reputable professional.
Posted by: jeannie17

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/12/12 11:35 PM

Hello, Can anybody recommend a very good and experienced electrologist in Louisiana?

Had a terrible experience with quack a few years ago and won't go without making sure that tech is skilled.
Posted by: LAgirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/13/12 06:03 PM

Please follow the tips on the first page. This is not a recommendation thread. We try to keep things separate so it's helpful to posters. There is an entire section with recommendations and a search feature on this forum.
Posted by: nesio

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/16/13 09:39 AM

Hallo. I write also on behalf of my partner, whose English is not so good. We live in Italy and here it’s hard to find serious professionals like the ones writing on this forum. She has hair on her chin and cheeks. Some years ago she did some laser treatments, but this aggravated the problem instead of solving it. For several years she’s been tweezing, but hair keeps growing and getting worse, which is becoming a problem for both of us. Perhaps these previous treatments make electrolysis more complex.
We live in a middle-sized town that has no specialized hair removal center. There is however a beauty salon offering electrolysis. They say they’ve been doing it for 20 years now, with good results. We couldn’t gather any more info, e.g. from people having been there, or about the equipment they use. On the phone they sounded well-informed and professional, but that’s all.
How confident do you think one can be of this type of facility? On this forum one reads of people taking planes to have electrolysis done by a serious professional, but this for us is not an option, nor could we find any specialized centers in our whole area. On the one hand electrolysis seems to be a relatively simple treatment having been around for more than a century, on the other it looks as if finding a good electrologist is harder than finding a good brain surgeon...
So the question is: if one doesn’t have access to a particularly renowned center and goes to ‘the electrologist round the corner’ (with no special credentials other than having been on the market for some time), what would you think are the chances of getting a) an excellent result, as fast and effective as possible; b) a good result, in a reasonable amount of time; c) a decent result, taking a rather long time, not solving the problem completely but improving the situation; d) a mediocre result, with little benefits and perhaps some permanent traces; e) no results and/or negative side effects.
Please be honest in your reply. If success chances are low, it is better to know in advance, before embarking in a long, expensive and distressful experience.
Thank you so much for your help and for your posts to this forum, which are by far the best source of information one can find on the Web.
Nesio
Posted by: electrolysislady

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/17/13 05:59 AM

Hi Nesio

It is best to book a consultation appointment and meet with the person doing the electrolysis, this will give you the opportunity to make an assessment of the facility and the practitioner. If they have been in business for 20 years they should have references, ask.

The practitioner should do the following at a minimum:
explain the electrolysis process,
take a medical history,
assess the treatment area, and
provide a sample treatment.

Getting rid of the hair permanently is dependent on the practitioner's skills, it can either be very effective treatment or glorified plucking. Type of machine doesn't matter, the practitioner is the most important factor, the best machine will not make up for lack of skill.

A few questions to ask would be:

What are the infection control procedures,
What kind of training does the practitioner have,
How many hours of electrolysis would be required (this will be an estimate),
References.

Feel free to report back. Good luck!
Posted by: nesio

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/19/13 08:59 AM

Hi, thank you for your answer. They did explain the process, and seemed to be well-informed, at least based on what I've been reading on this forum. Infection control is ensured by giving each client their own probe (cost, about 15 euros). As for training, they just said they have 20 years of experience, and that's probably the most you can get here in Italy (coulnd't find any schools or professional associations).
The big question is: what are the chances of getting a very effective treatment or glorified plucking? Would you say 50/50? 80/20 or 70/30, and if so, in what direction? Finding a good practitioner is important in electrolysis as it is in hairdressing, gardening and dentistry. The problem is that most people are familiar with those areas (and in none of them, based on my experience, the chance of finding a very bad practitioner exceeds 15-20%), but it's really hard to make such an estimate for electrolysis.
Thank you
Nesio
Posted by: Danika

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/19/13 09:08 AM

Based on your question i hope. It's okay to repost this what I just wrote to another thread...by the way. I love and agree with your line "It looks like finding a good electrolysist is harder than finding a good brain surgeon!" If you don't mind me asking where in Italy are you?
Okay here's my post


I can only be honest and share with you my own story. forgive me but I don't have time at the moment for spellcheck.
I also Have been seeking electrolysis( E from now on ) for a facial hair. It started with eyebrows when someone I know had a very successful electrolysis done on Her eyebrows in a different city.
I found someone in my city worked on my eyebrows for years however i was never told me not to pluck between sessions, or use sunscreen or anything at all...i Had a fantastic relationship and got along with my e but eventually I just wondered why it was taking so long. When I finally found this forum I became enlightened and realized that A lot of things weren't right . It was basically expensive plucking ,so I let it go ,and Began to seek other people for e work .
I really couldn't find anyone where
I live so I've seen people in various cities.
It was honestly the photographs on this forum and information I read here that Greatly influenced me into continuing to seek for elytrosis on my face. Though much of the hair is blonde, and there is much much less of it than the photos I've seen here ,( for example a man's back or a man's beard ,) I have yet to find anyone who does what has been referred in word and photos , as clearances. In fact each time I've mentioned the concept of doing three complete clearances they tell me that is not the way it goes. I'm not knocking anyone else's method I'm just telling you what I get told.
I've also learned that it's not the amount of money that someone charges that will ensure the best service. I had one guy charging me Exorbitant amounts which I was willing to pay and till I finally started to feel, for several reasons, like I was just getting sponged.

I've now met someone who may not be quite as good or quite as fast but does decent work and charges a quarter of the amount and has a soul. I'm just as happy overall with her work and I can afford longer treatments which again will only happen for the limited time i am here. But what you see on this forum, like The incredible, awesome work of Jossie for example, well I've learned not to get my hopes that high as i don't know that that degree of quality Is NOT found so easily out there. Now, hopefully I could be wrong... Unless you've been lucky enough to meet a good person close to where you live, Or are able to get yourself into see someone like Bono( well i think he doesn't do female faces?) Jossie,James or dfehey , then Expect to be patient With the process ,tread carefully, keep your eyes open, And never be Intimidated out of ask your questions here and. To your practitioner.

Posted by: nesio

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/19/13 09:29 AM

Hi Danika
we live in the Center-North of Italy. Does anybody know reliable practitioners in this area? We even asked the official Apilus reseller for Italy a list of centers that bought their machines. I know it's the hand, not the machine, making the difference, but at least knowing that someone invested some money in state-of-the-art technology could be a first indication of professional quality. Anyway, the reseller refused to give us such names.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/19/13 01:20 PM

I believe the reason they won't answer your question may have something to do with not actually having an official presence, or any large presence in Italy. Some countries make it very hard to sell products in their country if you do not produce the item in their country. As a contrast, they had a listing (which may still be up) on the web that proudly displayed the contact information of every practitioner who consented to be listed, as owning one of their machines.

On the other subject, one of the main reasons this forum exists is to give information on what is possible, and alternatively, what is probable for you to find in your search for electrolysis treatment. If everyone who reads the forum did a better job of discussing who is good in there area, we could do an even better job of covering places not currently listed on the site now.

There are many ways to do what we do, and because of that, many practitioners argue about what is "the right way" to do things. In the end, many of the arguments are just about personal preference, not any kind of hard fact that this is right, and that is wrong. At the same time, what clients want to receive is a whole lot more clear, and some things come closer to what a client wishes to receive, than others. It won't be the same for every client either. In the end, only the client can decide what treatment plan works best for his or her personal goals. It would just be nice if more practitioners had more options to offer. There is an old saying that says, "If all you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail."
Posted by: Laurier

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/19/13 01:51 PM

Originally Posted By: nesio
Hi Danika
we live in the Center-North of Italy. Does anybody know reliable practitioners in this area? We even asked the official Apilus reseller for Italy a list of centers that bought their machines. I know it's the hand, not the machine, making the difference, but at least knowing that someone invested some money in state-of-the-art technology could be a first indication of professional quality. Anyway, the reseller refused to give us such names.



May I suggest you ask Instantron that same question.
Posted by: electrolysislady

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/20/13 04:43 AM

Nesio

To answer your question on what the chances of getting good treatment, according to one of the executive members of the FCEA, (the Canadian electrologist association) they estimate that 80% of electrologists in Canada are undertreating or not providing adequate treatment. I am not sure how they determined that number or how accurate it is.
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/20/13 12:26 PM

WoW
I don't know where they got that statistic, nor how to argue for or against it. I will say, however, that when I work with students, (and some current practitioners) the thing that is hardest to train them out of is shallow insertions, and a poor choice on treatment energy. Especially when it comes to treating men, or women with thick deep hairs, like the ones one gets from years of plucking, and waxing, they just fear turning up the machine to the levels that are necessary, because all the cookie-duster upper lip hairs they are used to are half or 4 times lower than the correct current needed to effectively treat these tree trunk hairs.

Of course, many treatments are not as effective as they could be simply because the practitioner can't see the follicles well due to reliance on circle lamps, but that is another argument, for another day.
Posted by: nesio

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 02/22/13 10:17 AM

Thank you so much. 80% is really a lot! Sure, the figure can't be taken as uncontrovertible scientific truth, but it certainly gives an idea of how difficult it is to find a practitioner good enough to get the job done. Perhaps it doesn't meant that 4 people out of 5 doing electrolysis are wasting time and money, but for sure they are not getting the most out of this technology and probably, in cases such as those mentioned by James, they are not getting anything at all.
Posted by: Mor

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/03/13 12:59 AM

Someone here know a good proffesional in israel who work on men also? Thanks.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/03/13 02:38 AM

Mor,

Did you ever contact the electrologist I told you about ?
Posted by: Mor

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/03/13 08:50 AM

Yes she does not work on men like many others.
Also my hair is not thick at all.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/03/13 02:01 PM

Oh, why not!

How many electrologists are in Israel? Do you know?
Posted by: Mor

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/03/13 03:00 PM

I assume an average between 1-3 electrologist in each city.
The level is not high at all, they all use slow thermolysis with hand swiched needleholder. With normal X3 lupa, and not much Reliability.
There for i dont know what to do with my problem it preventing me living the life i want and should live.
Posted by: TimeForYou

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/04/13 09:44 PM

There is also the Federal Canadian Electrolysis Association (FCEA). It houses many provincial associations. This is a good way to find electrologists in your Canadian city. The FCEA has a set stardard for membership, so it should help with quality treatments done by professionals and many of them have CPE or CME designations.
Posted by: MaryPoppins87

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/30/13 08:00 PM

Does anybody know any skilled electrolysist in North Germany? Anywhere between Hamburg and Bremen? Many thanks you all.
Posted by: Maya TG

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 05/24/13 01:41 PM

Hi
I did 13 times Nd YAG laser for facial hair and now I want to shift to electrolysis for the rest of the hair because the laser is becoming not more effective.

Please, Does anyone know any electrolysis centre in Penang, Malaysia ?

Thank you
Posted by: Ms.Audrey Marie

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/18/13 04:38 PM

Please remember Certification and licensing mean little with out experience in the field and the proper equipment. IF YOUR IN A STATE THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE ITHER. The proper equipment well kept and up to date paired with a skilled experienced electrologist is no match for an electrologist certified with poor tools and little experience. ALTHOUGH in states that certification is required lack of certification is a definite RED FLAG and a big no no wink. Each state should have a sight in which you can reference a name. If not you can actually call the department of licensed professional regulations and give them a name directly and they can verify if not certificate to be found in the office. If your just checking up on your electrologist of choice.
Posted by: LostComplex

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/27/13 02:21 AM

Would anyone happen to know any good electrologists in South Florida?

Exact location doesn't matter. I just need to find a good one.
Posted by: Blsulli6

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/29/13 05:06 PM

Does anyone have any recommendations for a good electrologists in NJ? I have done an extensive search on hair tell to no avail. Thank you
Posted by: Blsulli6

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/29/13 05:07 PM

Sorry central NJ... Thanks smile
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/30/13 03:08 AM

If you are having a hard time in Central NJ, perhaps you need to expand your search to include eastern PA.

You never mentioned if you are male or female or what are you having done?
Posted by: ElenaHeart

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/30/13 09:14 AM

Does anyone have recommendations of electroylsists in Portland, Oregon or Washington state? I have no idea what electroylsist to choose.
Posted by: Blsulli6

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/30/13 10:57 PM

If all else fails will search there. I'm female looking for facial work
Posted by: James W. Walker VII

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/31/13 10:23 AM

So, you are not near Toms River?
Posted by: lyrical

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/06/13 08:09 PM

I wonder, can I share what I found here? I'm from Portugal and had never heard of electrolysis. Cue, a fair amount of desperation and the need to find someone ASAP led to one of the most extensive Web searches I have ever done. And you wouldn't imagine the keywords I had to scrounge up to yield results...

(For any Portuguese people out there needing to find electrologysts, I used the keywords: eletrólise, eletrocoagulaçăo, depilaçăo elétrica, eletrologia. Good thing Google doesn't mind about the acordo ortográfico.)


So, these are the places I found so far. Mind you, I only emailed people, I have yet to try the places and know if they have good treatment.


Elizabeth Ministro
Rua Serpa Pinto, 16/18 1ş andar
Torres Vedras

(Has the Apilus equipment)

http://www.elizabethministro.com/

Forgot to add Elizabeth Ministro is the only member of the AEA in Portugal. I am so totally making the one hour+ trip to visit her next week.


Madalena Tavares
Rua Carlos Mardel
69, R/C Esq.
Lisboa

http://www.mtestetica.com/


Manuela Rebelo
Expo Norte e Oeiras

http://www.estetica-manuelarebelo.com/


Dermepil
Av. Almirante Reis 52 A, 6şE
Lisboa

(I am unsure if this place is still open, it has no Website)


Clínica Lisboa
Campo Grande, nş4 - 1şDto

(Has the Apilus equipment)

http://www.visage.pt/clinicas-consultas


Gabinete de estética Isabel Oliveira
Rua D. Afonso Henriques, 2491
Águas Santas
4425-057 MAIA

http://www.isabelesteti.com/


If anyone happens to have anymore info on any skilled electrologyst in Portugal, please do share. I am from the Lisbon area, by the way. So far I wasn't able to find any kind of review/comment regarding electrolysis from any of those places. Guess I'll do my part as a guinea pig.
Posted by: lyrical

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/10/13 09:03 PM

Found two other places! Again, I don't know about their expertise.

Body Center
Rua Sousa Loureiro, nş 9, Loja 7
Lisboa

http://www.bodycenter.pt/


Hedonai
El Corte Inglés, Piso -1
Av/ Antonio Augusto de Aguiar, 31
Lisboa

http://www.hedonai.com/el-corte-ingles/pt.html

(The nightmares of a site that is a mixup of Spanish and Portuguese but I think they have electrolysis. Holy Google Translation...)
Posted by: lyrical

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/26/13 07:35 PM

Here's three more in Portugal!

Academia de Depilaçăo CILA

Lg Machado de Assis, 5-C - Alvalade
Lisboa - Lisboa (1700-116)
Portugal

(Couldn't find a website. Not sure if the place still exists)


Fly Entre Campos

Rua de Entrecampos, 62C
1700-159 Lisboa

Horário
Segunda-Sexta - 9h/20h
Sábado - 9h/18h

http://flyentrecampos.blogspot.pt/p/contactos.html


The images of this place show rather poor lighting (they mostly do massages). Also, expensive rates - 25€/15 minutes.


Ki Center

Rua António Lopes N.ş6
Queijas

http://www.ki-center.net/
Posted by: Lyndsey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/31/13 01:56 AM

Can anyone recommend and electrologist near or around the Cape Girardeau, MO area?
Posted by: Barbara_CPE

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/01/13 03:31 AM

KC area: Melynda Little.
Posted by: Catsup

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/13/13 05:47 AM

Hi all,

I am looking for recommendations for skilled electrologists in Africa. The closer to Madagascar the better, however any recommendations would be much appreciated!
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/13/13 01:24 PM

I have NEVER seen any electrologists recommended here on Hairtell in Africa.

This question is dependent on a random reader stumbling across your question.
Posted by: Brenton

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/14/13 01:58 AM

This is the only person I could find on the entire hairtell forum who recommended someone in Africa (this is down in South Africa just fyi):

Barbara Erasmus (T)
137 Swaardlelie Street,
Pretoria 0040,
Republic of South Africa

Tel 012 807 5059
Posted by: Catsup

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 12/17/13 02:22 AM

Thank you Brenton, your word trawling skills are much appreciated smile
I did a broad search using this forums' search function and the closest I could find was someone wishing to set up a practice on the continent..
Posted by: nedle

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/05/14 09:23 PM

Hi everyone, I am searching for skilled electrologist in Spain, any recomendation?? Thankss !
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/05/14 11:50 PM

Is this a trick question? ONLY KIDDING!

I'm sure Josefa can direct you if you can give her an idea of your general location. You can private message her . Just click on her screen name in the Top Posters box. She is the last name at the bottom.

Good luck.
Posted by: nedle

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/06/14 12:18 PM

I know Josefa is spanish also professional electrologist, I asked her by private message 2 times but she ignores me I dont know why.. I will try again.. thanks !
Posted by: SeanaTG

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/06/14 01:08 PM

It's likely she didnt have time to respond. Also if you were inquiring as to whether SHE could work on you, unfortunately the answer is likely no. Josepha has a long wait list, and isnt even accepting patients onto the wait list anymore because it's become unmanageable. She states such in her signature.She could likely though recommend someone else nearby.This is what happens when you are just THAT good, everyone wants work done but there just isnt enough time for all of it.
Also if you speak spanish, that's easier for her as she doesnt have to use google translate.
Seana
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/06/14 03:02 PM

Originally Posted By: nedle
I know Josefa is spanish also professional electrologist, I asked her by private message 2 times but she ignores me I dont know why.. I will try again.. thanks !


Until recently, I did not know anyone in the city that you mention. I have asked and asked on one of the most frequently visited Spanish forums.... and nothing. There are 2 people located relatively close, one is Francisca in Centro Kebec (Murcia), the other is Isabel Gómez Romero (in Elda, Alicante). I'm going to see Isabel this next Wednesday, we have organized a small workshop course.

I hope this helps. Good luck!
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/06/14 03:03 PM

Originally Posted By: SeanaTG
It's likely she didnt have time to respond. Also if you were inquiring as to whether SHE could work on you, unfortunately the answer is likely no. Josepha has a long wait list, and isnt even accepting patients onto the wait list anymore because it's become unmanageable. She states such in her signature.She could likely though recommend someone else nearby.This is what happens when you are just THAT good, everyone wants work done but there just isnt enough time for all of it.
Also if you speak spanish, that's easier for her as she doesnt have to use google translate.
Seana



smile smile smile

You do not know how right you are, Seana. Sometimes I wake up thinking I've made a mistake and I have given an appointment to two foreigners on the same dates. So I think that if this ever happens, I would be working with one during the day and with another at night. eek
Posted by: nedle

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/06/14 09:11 PM

Thank you very much Josefa,

Regards.
Posted by: shaz1981

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/06/14 10:33 PM

Hi

I was also interested in booking an appointment with you Josefa. Can you please tell me when you hope to start accepting bookings again?
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/07/14 02:05 AM

I do not know, I hope to do in the coming months.
Posted by: Michael Bono

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/07/14 01:26 PM

For new clients ... "waiting in the wings":

The other aspect to remember is that for Jossie and me; we mostly do out-of-town people. Once they start with us, they get top priority. Here’s what I mean ...

Let’s say I clear off a guy’s back in a week or so. Now, he should see me in the 3-month “window of opportunity” for the 2nd clearance. And again for the 3rd and final clearing at the next 3-month interval. Scheduling is like trying to fit clients into a puzzle so they get the maximum benefit at the right time from these "clearances."

Sometimes I actually get long periods of time with no clients (waiting for the return people) … then, a bunch. (I just went for three weeks with no clients! It was nice!) However, (and I’m sure Jossie works this way too), the people that we’ve already started are our main concern. New people can wait a bit.

Remember, once you’re “in” this thing it’s “full steam ahead.” So, hang in there … the hairs aren’t going anywhere! It’s also imperative not to rush any of this.

Rushing, being anxious and impatient will cause you to make the wrong decisions! Please be extremely careful in your selection of operator! Don't throw money at a "sub-standard" therapist, and hope for a fast result! I'm seriously getting "ill" from all the horror stories!

I'm in contact with a guy from the East coast who got dreadful results on his beard work (50+ hours and “zero results”). He wanted to come see me for a weekend to “get started.” Well, two days would only frustrate me (and him): once I start I want to finish! So, he’s coming in a few months when he has a good chunk of time to spend in Santa Barbara. And then the "freight train" can't be stopped!

I hope this makes sense to you all.
Posted by: englishpessimist

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/22/14 11:01 PM

Originally Posted By: depilacionelectr
I do not know, I hope to do in the coming months.


I tried messaging you on here and emailing too but no reply
are you not accepting any foreigners that can't speak spanish?

Just wondering because as the search in the UK is proving fruitless I would love to be worked on by you so I can actually see some improvement.

If you really are open to working on more people from UK should I keep checking hairtell? I can't find any info of yours in english other than here so feel kinda helpless. Thanks
Posted by: SeanaTG

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/22/14 11:11 PM

Josefa is overbooked already to the best of my knowledge .She'll let you know when she is accepting patients I'm sure.

Seana
Posted by: englishpessimist

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/23/14 12:47 AM

Originally Posted By: SeanaTG
Josefa is overbooked already to the best of my knowledge .She'll let you know when she is accepting patients I'm sure.

Seana


yeah I know the current situation, I've been reading this forum for almost a year and I've yet to see the situation change, just wanted to ask how I would find out as someone who doesn't speak spanish and after 10 months, I haven't seen a single opening so I don't know how she would let me know considering the amount of demand I'm like a grain of sand.
Posted by: mssunshine

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/25/14 11:53 AM

Hi all. I have been checking this forum for over a year now and I am finally ready to start my hair removal journey. I am really interested in getting electrolysis done while I am living in Spain. I moved here a few months ago and will be here for another year. I understand that Josefa is overbooked frown but can anyone recommend any good practitioners in or near Madrid? I would really like to get started as soon as possible.
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/25/14 12:10 PM

Englishpessimist, I read your comment on 23 , but at that time I was busy with another English guy. This was his first time. He has also waited for over a year.

However, it saddens me when someone thinks that language is an obstacle for him. From just over 3 years, the number of non- Spanish-speaking people in whom I have worked , represents about 75 % of my total time spent performing Electrolysis . I've lost count , but must be more than a score of men and women from Hairtell who have passed through my hands, more than 3 times. If my memory serves, only two of them could speak a little Spanish. Most of them need treatment over large areas, backs , chests , legs, arms , or whole body and face. It's not easy .
Many people are just looking for contrast information from various professionals to see what everyone say in private. Others use a double nick . Others are pushing for an appointment , and when they do, they are unable to come. No, it is not easy , my young friend .

I try to make a selection based on the waiting time, the real need for treatment, and the degree of interest that the person has to be treated by me. Language has never been an issue.
Posted by: englishpessimist

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/25/14 10:39 PM

thats great that you have worked with so many non-spanish speakers, it gives me hope. I was only wondering how they managed to get worked on by you as it seems you are too booked up to add to your huge waiting list always.

I'm a little confused by the end of your comment, are you saying people are using multiple nicknames on here to get information from professionals and when given an appointment don't come?

Anyway I'm not sure if its the translation but I didn't mean to say anything negative about your methods of choosing people to work on, I just really want to be on your waiting list so I know that even if it is far away, there is hope things will get better.

fingers crossed you've got space for another UK guy sometime.
Posted by: Mailliw

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/16/14 06:38 PM

Archived link given above from September 5, 2008 to site listing those who treat men:


After that date, the site went away.
Posted by: Mailliw

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 04/17/14 09:44 PM

Here is a current list for trans-gender friendly clients, but I'm sure it works well for all men:
Posted by: penTechCoach

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/07/14 12:40 PM

Hi there -

I'm building a website and doing some online marketing for an electrologist in Key West, FL and would like to get her business included in the HairFacts directory.

I can not find a link to submit a business and I've contacted Andra and an Admin person in this forum but have not received a reply in over two weeks.

Could you by any chance help me out with this.

Thanks so much,

Mare
Posted by: SeanaTG

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/07/14 06:05 PM

Hairfacts and Hairtell are both owned by Andrea. She would be the one to talk to. But she is often gone or busy for periods of time due to her professional and personal life but will eventually get back to you.

Seana
Posted by: Helen1983

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/07/14 09:03 PM

I'd say go with recommendations if you have non go onto the UK or US or what ever country you are from official electrolysis website electrolysis volunteer some states in America I believe make it compulsory but only a few in UK is optional and look for those in your area. In UK they are checked annually and also have to take part in so many courses to keep up there training. I only have one near me but if you have a few got and visit the 3 nearest see which one you are most comfortable with chatting treatment no plucking scaring etc.. and then stick with that one smile That's what I'd advise people. If you have no one registered that you can travel to you'll just have to try out the ones nearest and again see which feels best. Its a job to them and they are those in it for wages only and those more compasionate who have been through it themselves this is what I'd be looking for x
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/08/14 02:41 AM

Originally Posted By: penTechCoach
Hi there -

I'm building a website and doing some online marketing for an electrologist in Key West, FL and would like to get her business included in the HairFacts directory.

I can not find a link to submit a business and I've contacted Andra and an Admin person in this forum but have not received a reply in over two weeks.

Could you by any chance help me out with this.

Thanks so much,

Mare


Did you try to send the information here to Andrea here: andrea@deepstealth.com
Posted by: penTechCoach

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/12/14 10:46 PM

No - I tried andrea@hairfacts.com. Thanks so much!
Posted by: SeanaTG

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/13/14 02:20 AM

Any address @hairfacts.com goes to Andrea.
Posted by: Ayesha CFC

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 08/28/14 06:51 PM

Hi,

I am new to this site but I have been reading up on the information in relation to electrolysis. I had laser hair removal around 2-3 years ago and have now been left with laser induced stimulation growth.

I live in Birmingham in England (UK), I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good eletrologist in my area or how I can find one.

Thanks
Posted by: penTechCoach

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/25/14 06:37 AM

I've tried emailing Andrea repeatedly about getting my client in Key West listed in the Practitioner Finder section on her HairFacts.com site. Does anyone have any suggestions? Is there a form that I'm just not seeing? Thanks so much!
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/25/14 08:20 AM

I will notify her. Thank you for letting us know. She is very busy with other missions in life.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/25/14 08:25 AM

Originally Posted By: Ayesha CFC
Hi,

I am new to this site but I have been reading up on the information in relation to electrolysis. I had laser hair removal around 2-3 years ago and have now been left with laser induced stimulation growth.

I live in Birmingham in England (UK), I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good eletrologist in my area or how I can find one.

Thanks


You can refer to Hairfacts.com , the sister site of Hairtell. There, you will find a link on how to find a good electrologists.

You can look up names in your area by googling the BIAE site, make a list, get several consultations and then decide on who you will give your business to.

Perhaps some of our dear British colleagues that read Hairtell will contact you here or in a private message to lead you to someone that is well respected .

Good luck!
Posted by: estee

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/06/14 09:00 PM

I have been getting treated by rose at ImageCare electrolysis in Inman square Cambridge, MA. She uses thermolysis and is super fast. I don't feel any tugs when she tweezed the hair after treatment. My treatment is still under progress so I can't comment on her kill rate. She did scar one of my eye brows coz the hairs were too thick. But regardless she's the best electrologist in the MA/RI area. Highly recommended
Posted by: Michael Bono

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/06/14 11:37 PM

You mean "SCAB" or "SCAR?"
Posted by: estee

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/07/14 08:00 PM

They are red marks. They've been there for almost 7 months now. I don't believe these are deep pitted scars
Posted by: Michael Bono

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/07/14 11:24 PM

let me guess, you have very pale white skin?

These marks are "angiogenesis" (countless tiny capillaries) and will eventually disappear completely as the vessels remodel themselves. These "red marks" show up mostly on very white skin (especially people with red hair), but the process takes place with all skin types. And, yes, zapping a big hair makes a bigger "dead space" and therefore a larger area of "angiogenesis."
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/08/14 09:35 AM

Originally Posted By: Michael Bono
let me guess, you have very pale white skin?

These marks are "angiogenesis" (countless tiny capillaries) and will eventually disappear completely as the vessels remodel themselves. These "red marks" show up mostly on very white skin (especially people with red hair), but the process takes place with all skin types. And, yes, zapping a big hair makes a bigger "dead space" and therefore a larger area of "angiogenesis."


Amazing that it still surprise me. You needed only three lines to explain something so complex so that everyone, skilled or not, can understand so well.
Posted by: Ayesha CFC

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/06/15 10:06 AM

Hi,

I have checked Hairtell.com and all I found was some information on Electrolysis manufacturers in Birmingham.

If anyone could offer any other advice I would really appreciate it.

Thanks
Posted by: Laurier

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 09/06/15 11:55 AM

Do you do Facebook ? Look for a group called "Hairshoot" That is for and by UK electrolysists.
Posted by: TimeForYou

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/28/15 12:37 PM

There is also the Federal Canadian Electroysis Association FCEA.org
Some provinces by individual associations as well.
I'm a member of the Ontario chapter www.fceaontario.org
Posted by: arader1

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/29/15 04:38 PM

I have been researching electrolysis for what seems to be years now. I am a 23 year old female with excessive growth on my sideburns and pubic area. I have contemplated between laser and electrolysis for quite some time and have finally decided on electrolysis. I have searched high and low for a reputable electrologist in massachusetts near where I live and finally found an esthetician by the name of Dr. Lana Shnayder who has a business in Wellesley Massachusetts called Superior Skin Care and Electrology. I am so scared I will get pitting, scarring, hyper pigmentation, etc. I have read so many horror stories on this forum and though Dr. Shnayder has good reviews on yelp I am still so scared. I am going for a consultation this Saturday. Has anyone heard of this esthetician before? Can anyone ease my fears? How can I be sure I won't end up looking like swiss cheese? Please Help!!
Posted by: Bayman

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/06/16 05:16 AM

Any recommendations in the San Francisco Bay Area? I need to remove some transplanted hairs from hairline.
Posted by: adamj95

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/14/16 01:53 AM

Can anyone help me find a reputable electrologist in my area? I am having a hard time finding anyone near me and if I do seem to find an electrologist online, the number for them is no longer in service or they never answer. I am located in Grand Forks, ND. I am willing to travel but it seems to me that the closest place would be Minneapolis and I don't ave the time to drive 5 hours down there everytime.
Posted by: Iluv2zap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/14/16 10:39 AM

I dont know of any to be honest. You might try perusing the listings for north dakota and Minnesota here :


http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/80/1/North_Dakota.html

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/forums/70/1/Minnesota.html

Be warned, some of the listings are likely to be quite old and may no longer be accurate.


Seana
Posted by: colleen67

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/23/16 08:46 PM

Hey everyone, does anyone know of a reputable electrologist in Victoria, British Columbia?

Thanks!
Colleen
Posted by: zaphairzap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/17/16 03:02 AM

Any suggestions of reputed electrologists for the Houston area?
Posted by: TorontoGirl

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/02/16 02:47 AM

Hi Colleen, have you found an electrologist in Victoria? I am looking for one as well!
Posted by: Lucie Desrochers, CPE

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/02/16 08:47 AM

Here is a Certified Member of the Canadian Organization of Professional Electrologists:

Iga Lejer CE, CCE, RDT, Laser
Iga’s Electrolysis & Laser
390 - 1641 Hillside Avenue
Victoria, BC V8T 5G1
250-721-9910
igalejer@gmail.com
igaslaser.com
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 10/02/16 10:08 PM

Lucie, thank you for helping out on that!
Posted by: adamj95

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/17/17 01:37 PM

I'm still looking for an electrologist in my area if anyone could be of any help . I live in Northwest minnesota and The nearest electrologist seems to be at least 4-5 hours away which isn't close enough for me.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/17/17 02:30 PM

Sorry. There are not enough of us. Why? I don't know. It is a fun profession where you are your own boss.
Posted by: joben

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/20/17 04:36 PM

Originally Posted By dfahey
Sorry. There are not enough of us. Why? I don't know. It is a fun profession where you are your own boss.


Dee,

Do you think a man could make a living as an electrologist? I would assume that most customers are female and would prefer a female technician, which would make it more difficult for a man to find clients. What are your thoughts?
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/20/17 06:14 PM

There are many men who are employed as an electrologist! Of course, this is a very viable profession for a man. Ask Mike Bono, James Walker, Fino Gior and his son, Skip Mahler, Lorenzo Kuntz and who did I leave out? They are all excellent male electrologists. I see a couple of men at my continuing education events.

I think men are very valuable to the electrolysis profession. If Monkey's were capable of doing electrolysis, I'd be praising monkey's too. Not trying to equate men with monkey's, so don't take offense anyone.
Posted by: Laurier

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/20/17 06:16 PM

Most all of the pioneering in our industry has been done by men and there are more male electrologists than one would think.
Posted by: joben

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/22/17 09:36 AM

I was assuming it would be more difficult for a male electrologist to find clients because I also assume that most clients would be female and females would prefer a female tech.

Only basing this on my experience with laser hair removal. I've been to several different places and never seen a male tech.
Posted by: Laurier

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/22/17 10:34 AM

They are rare. The practice of electrology is a female dominated profession but they do exist just like male nurses exist in another female dominated profession.
Posted by: adamj95

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/26/17 11:32 AM

I've extended my search for an electrologist into Canada. im not sure what regulations they have for getting a license, but would anyone know of good electrologists in Winnipeg, Manitoba?
Posted by: Iluv2zap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/26/17 06:43 PM

Manitoba is the only province in canada with an form of electrology licensing, and it's in the form of an apprenticeship program/certification AND a you need a permission to practise certificate. The information on it is here:
http://www.gov.mb.ca/wd/apprenticeship/discover/mbtrades/electrologist.html
The rest of the country electrology is wholly unlicensed and uncontrolled activity.

Perhaps this is why Manitoba is about the only province I dont have a professional contact or reference for.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/27/17 10:57 PM

Seana, do you wish the whole country was licensed?
Posted by: Iluv2zap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/27/17 11:15 PM

absolutely not!
Gosh I thought my position of anti-licensing anti-barrier was well established? I must not be trying hard enough!

Seana
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 01/28/17 12:04 AM

Thanks for your answer.
Posted by: Divine45

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/07/17 06:14 PM

New user here, long and exhausting hair-removal journey. I've searched the forum for Toronto-based recommendations and saw a few places mentioned; mostly negative reviews though.

I will be contacting Rea from follikill for a consult; just wondering if someone might have more recommendations. You will be saving me a lot of time/money/unnecessary pain, so much appreciated!
Posted by: Iluv2zap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/08/17 09:26 AM

Rea would be my first choice.I dont have any others in toronto that I know of their work.
Posted by: smac

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/11/17 12:57 PM

Does anyone know of an electrologist in the Chicago area willing to do a Brazilian? I'm currently working with an electrologist who I'm very pleased with on my underarms, but she says she only does bikini lines.
Posted by: Laurier

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/11/17 03:46 PM

Kelly Inc.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/11/17 09:32 PM

Kelly offers anesthetic help (injections), too. There is no doubt that you will be so pleased with Kelly and her team.

http://www.izapem.com/
Posted by: smac

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 03/22/17 08:28 PM

Thanks to both of you! I will certainly get in touch with her.
Posted by: adamj95

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/09/17 02:12 PM

I am planning on traveling from the US to Canada to see an electrologist so I will have to cross the border. I don't want to get grilled by customs but is it okay to say I'm getting electrolysis done or is that not something I should do?
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/09/17 10:21 PM

I would say that you are FREE to say what you want, but I would always choose to be honest. You could say (with all honesty, but maybe not a straight face) that you are having microsurgery on your hair follicles, without saying the word 'electrolysis'. That sounds really important, serious and very cool.
Posted by: Iluv2zap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/09/17 11:47 PM

I think the thing to remember at border crossing is that they are looking for any signs of deception. So therefor Dee's coy response is probably not helpful in this regard. Its safe to be honest.
Posted by: Cautious

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/11/17 04:38 PM

I've tried 2 local Electrologists and I would say my experience at both places was not successful, so I am still looking. The first time I used no pain medication or cream of any kind and it hurt so badly that I only had 1 hair done.

The second time was with a different Electrologist and recticare was used, and I noticed no difference in pain level between that session and the session with the first Electrologist. I was only able to tolerate 1 hair. After that, I tried laser but only one session, and only 3 or 4 hairs fell out from that.

The area in question that I was targeting both times was on my toes, which have thick, dark, course hair that I shave twice a week.

What I am seeking is someone who is legally allowed to administer safe and effective pain medication for treatment of electrolysis.

Or, a less painful machine. I looked up electrology machines to see which one is the least painful, and it looks like something called apilus platinum, but I have not yet experienced that machine and I'm not sure if that machine would make much difference in my pain level on my toes. My pain levels would need to be reduced by at least half in order to tolerate more than 1 hair being done.

What should I do? I want to get these toes done and then move on to other areas and this has dragged out for 2 years already. Any advice is much appreciated.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/12/17 11:58 AM

The only way you are going to settle on someone is get as many consults and short treatments as possible, so you can compare skill level. I removed coarse hairs from male toes this week. It took about 9 minutes per toe, He was cleared in 43 minutes. He tolerated it well, but it was not painless. I always use high intensity and lower timing (PicoFlash) and I "pull, press and pinch" on this sensitive area to fool the nerve impulses. That seems to help, but you still have to be courageous and bold to get it cleared and keep it cleared over time. You can take whatever pain medication you use for a headache to take off the edge. You can ice the area above where work is being done?
Posted by: SpanishSahara

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/16/17 11:15 AM

Hi, new user here!
I was wondering if theres any suggestions for electrologists in Spain, France or Germany maybe, who can do long sessions since I have to travel to be treated.
I've been told that I probably won't be treated here (Portugal) because my hair is too fine for electrolysis, so I'm looking for other solutions, since we don't have many electrologists here.
I want to start electrolysis on my stomach, upper back and face. I just bleach the hairs on these areas. Recently did a laser session on my stomach, to reduce coarser hairs (I have this fine middle line on my stomach), but i know this won't remove them permanently.
I'm female btw.

Sorry for my english and thanks in advance!
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/16/17 11:54 AM

Your English is excellent.

Electrolysis is the DOMAIN for treating finer hairs! No hair is too fine. The trouble may lie with the person that told you that, meaning, THEY can't see the hair.

There are many European electrologists that would help you. I will put out the word and hopefully some will private message you.
Posted by: SpanishSahara

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/16/17 01:04 PM

Thank you so much Dee!
They can see it, they just said that the hair is too fine so they wouldn't be able to insert the probe (I think this is the right name for it).
The hair is not short, it is fine but brown and long and I don't want to bleach them for the rest of my life that's why I want to remove them permanently.
Posted by: dfahey

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/16/17 01:21 PM

I don't agree with them. What a shame.
Posted by: Iluv2zap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/16/17 02:25 PM

I treat such fine hairs frequently.They used to present a challenge, experience has meant that they are quite treatable. Dark hairs especially guide us right to the follicleand a quick pico flash and presto dead hair!I'm with Dee that I dont agree with them.
Posted by: SpanishSahara

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/16/17 06:41 PM

Thanks Seana! Its good to know that there's a solution for me, I just have to travel to find it.
Posted by: Iluv2zap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/16/17 09:47 PM

The UK has several qualified electrologists you can find theough the BEA site. Theres also Beate Ritzert in Manheim Germany, Adien Sanchez in Malaga Spain and Mairi in scotland.

Seana
Posted by: adamj95

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/20/17 12:06 AM

Originally Posted By Iluv2zap
I think the thing to remember at border crossing is that they are looking for any signs of deception. So therefor Dee's coy response is probably not helpful in this regard. Its safe to be honest.


So it would be okay to say I'm going for electrolysis? I don't mind them knowing, i just don't want to be grilled by the border patrol.
Posted by: Iluv2zap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/20/17 10:27 PM

/they arent going to bat an eyelash but they might ask you what electrolysis is. The border patrol dont care if you are getting a service here. They are looing for evasion, and any indication you might overstay your welcome.
Posted by: mhawkes

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/30/17 12:26 PM

As Seana and Dee say these hairs can be treated successfully, however it's not a quick process upper arms can take 15-20 hours each a back 30- 40 abdomen 20-30 hours it's really depends on clients tolerance and how clear they want the skin to be. BUT it can be done. It is for the skilled experienced professionals only. There are a few near in Spain
Posted by: lily q

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 07/30/17 04:05 PM

To copy a previous request for recommendations from a few pages ago... can anyone recommend a good and talented electrologist anywhere near the Boston, MA area (I have no problem with traveling an hour out of town) who's willing to do full brazilian electro?

I've been seeing my current electrologist for 2-3 hours a week for a year (and getting electro for even longer than that) and she tweezes so much that I've spent over $6000 on next to no visible reduction in hair. When I try to discuss this with her, she says it's too dangerous to risk scarring by using a stronger zap. I'm feeling taken advantage of and very stupid, but it's so nerve-wracking to shop around for such an intimate procedure.
Posted by: Cautious

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/10/17 05:49 PM

"The only way you are going to settle on someone is get as many consults and short treatments as possible, so you can compare skill level."

That does sound time-consuming, with no guarantee of what I'm looking for.

"I removed coarse hairs from male toes this week. It took about 9 minutes per toe, He was cleared in 43 minutes. He tolerated it well, but it was not painless. I always use high intensity and lower timing (PicoFlash) and I "pull, press and pinch" on this sensitive area to fool the nerve impulses. That seems to help, but you still have to be courageous and bold to get it cleared and keep it cleared over time. You can take whatever pain medication you use for a headache to take off the edge. You can ice the area above where work is being done?"

I'm looking for something that will not be at the edge of what I can tolerate; I'm looking to be safely numbed so that there's barely any pain. Are there any beauty clinics offering electrology that have people on staff to legally administer pain medications?

Without an effective pain medication, or a method or machine that diminishes the pain by half (and even that is pushing it), electrology is not something I can tolerate, and I will have to move on to other methods.
Posted by: Iluv2zap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/10/17 09:17 PM

there are only two that I know of, e3000 in houston texas and about you hair removal in chicago. These clinics have doctor supervised lidocaine injections. There's also a clinic in I think it's switzerland I heard mention of recently.
None of these places are cheap. No they will not come to you.I dont hear the best of reviews out of any of them and am not making any kind of recommendation. You're better off moving on to other methods if that is what you are intent on.
Posted by: Ton

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/12/17 03:19 AM

Seana, I would add to that list Yanhee Hospital in Thailand, Jade Electrolysis franchise/chain in Canada, and 2Pass Clinic in Belgium for anesthetic beyond topical creams.

I was told by an electrologist that different areas of the body respond better to topical creams. She told me that, for some people at least, the lower legs will often be totally pain-free when topical cream is used on them. I haven’t had experience with electrolysis on my shins and ankles, so I don’t have any first-hand experience myself. I do know that I experienced pain on my knees and just below my knees with topical anesthetic. I myself have experience total painlessness when I had topical cream on the backs of upper arms, and an area on the back of my thigh (I left it on for 3 hours on my thigh before the blasting). Other places, such as my neck, face, belly, and chest would experience pain even with topical cream. On these other areas, I didn’t leave the cream on for more than 2 hours at the most; sometimes only 1 hour. I heard that you should put on 5% lidocaine cream 30 minutes before facework, and 3 hours before body work (not 3 hours for mucous membranes, such as genitals or inside the nose or mouth!!! (yes, mouth: watch 6:10 to 8:07 of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWQoJuOs_Jc )).

But don't just blindly follow my advice; I'm not an electrologist; read the instructions and follow the advice of your physician and pharmacist to double-check; don't just follow what I say, because maybe my electrologist was just giving me advice that was applicable to me only. Your medical history could be totally unique to you an not representative of the average person.

An electrologist told me that some of her clients are dental hygienists, and they steal lidocaine injections from their dentist’s office (illegally) and inject themselves with it, which gives you about a 1-inch or so diameter circle (so this electrologist tells me. I’ve never had a lidocaine injection so far, and I’ve never witnessed one).

You could go to Yanhee Hospital in Bangkok, Thailand for lidocaine injections:

http://www.yanhee.net/hair-removal

The Hairtell user “Kostik” has posted many photos of the big syringes that were used at Yanhee!:

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/download/Number/760/filename/FullSizeRender_4.jpg

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/117843/1.html

Kostik had this machine (HR-5000 by IME) and these probes used on him for the Kobayashi-Yamada method of high-powered thermolysis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5LDZLm6ANs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldVN0k1xOxw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ae0133UnvqI

In Canada, Jade Electrolysis used a Madajet at least in the past, which vortexes the anesthetic into the skin using needles; I don’t know if they still use that method or not anymore. I know that at least at some point in the year 2017, for an extra $90/hour, you can book a nurse to inject you with anesthetic. I don't know if they use a Madajet to do this or traditional needles. Perhaps they are still offering that option; I don’t know.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSHGM7x-cuQ

1:39-2:03 is when the electrologist mentions the use of the Madajet in electrology.

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads....html#Post10902

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/1640/Searchpage/1/Main/324/Words/Madajet/Search/true/Re:_James_Question_about_using.html#Post1640

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads....html#Post29462

http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/112070/1.html

http://www.hairfreeforlife.com/having-a-pain-free-experience/ :

“One way we can help limit the discomfort is by freezing the treatment area through the use of a topical or local anaesthetic.”

https://www.yelp.ca/biz/jade-electrolysis-langley :

This above yelp review (there is only one so far) and the response both talk about anesthetic.

Someone with the username “Lucia M.” wrote on the website:

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Zc8VIsfXxfIJ:https://www.groupon.com/biz/langley/jade-electrolysis+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca :

“Will end up costing you alot more with the nurse and local anesthetic, but well worth it to not be in pain. Lisa and the nurse were wonderful.”

2Pass Clinic:
Ringlaan 51
2600 Berchem
Belgium

Says they use a "pain pump":

https://www.2passclinic.com/contact/international-transport/
https://www.2passclinic.com/permanent-hair-removal/pain-pump/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTyut4udtYM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KuZszdpoR8

Posted by: Iluv2zap

Re: How to find an electrologist in your area - 11/12/17 09:53 AM

the 2pass clinic is the one I was thinking of in europe, thanks the name of it slipped my mind.
I have never heard of jade electrolysis and dont know anything about them.