James,
I bought a Fischer SE-4 a few months ago (I posted about it in another thread). I am having a lot of difficulty locating a manual for it. You mentioned that a person can get one mailed or even sent via PDF. I checked the Fischer website and can’t find one on there. I have been unable to locate one in other places as well.
Do you have any suggestions on where I can obtain a manual?
Thanks.
You need only call them on the phone.
A PDF emailed to you would be free. Mailing a hard copy would cost you a small amount to cover the printing and shipping costs.
Since this is something you will probably only use for a week, I suggest the PDF and you print it on your own paper and slide it into a small clear plastic presentation folder. Your costs would be less than the shipping charges.
Hi!
I’ve been thinking about buying an electrolysis machine on ebay for some time now. I’ve started to check regularly what types of machines are available and at what prices.
I’m wondering about analog blend machines. They seem to be more abundant and significantly less expensive. From what I understand they work pretty much the same as the newer digital ones except you set currents manually instead of using built-in programs. Are there any other major differences? How big difference does these programs make? Is it like night and day? Are the programs more useful as a beginner or as an advanced user?
I’m considering buying an analog machine to start practicing together with a friend but if I’m convinced they’re significantly inferior I might consider waiting until I can find a not too expensive digital machine.
I would definitely get an analog. They are not inferior for what you want to do and are probably safer for a non-professional. It would be prudent to NOT do any facial work as you may scar each other as beginners. An Ultra Clareblend would be great and there appear to many around for sale these days below $1,000. Any serious professional electrologist who has a pretty good client base would be wise to to get the best equipment possible, but a buddy system requires much less fanciness because there is no money being being exchanged. Again, steer clear from your facial areas as beginners.
Dee
The highest end machines would feel more comfortable, if used properly, but I don’t think the difference in the hands of absolute beginners would be worth an extra $1,000 in difference.
I found a silhouet-tone posted on ebay right now for a very cheap price. Some of you might be interested in it and might want to check it out.
Is it a VMC? The VMC model is the best that Sil-Tone offers. It is a lovely epilator. One can disable the thermolysis side and do straight galvanic only which would be where a neophyte would want to start anyway. It will be pricey though, like $2,500 used unless the seller under prices it unkowingly.
Thank you for the quick replies!
I assure you I understand the risks of scarring from DIY-electrolysis and I do not plan to do any facial work unless I become sufficiently skilled.
I wonder if I understand the functionality of some of the analog Clareblend models.
I guess the one you call Ultra Clareblend is this one: Clareblend UltraBlend
Yesterday a Clareblend Model #8301 was sold for $112.50.
There is also this one for sale on ebay now: Clareblend Model #8101
From the look of the pictures, 8101 seems to be the simplest with just one dial to set the galvanic current and one to set the thermolysis energy. The 8301 seems to be similar but with an added autoblend unit, which I assume somehow automatically match the thermolysis energy to the galvanic current so you only need to turn one dial. The Ultrablend looks more modern but it is hard for me to tell what extra features it has. It seems to be able to do flash thermolysis but I guess this is not something I will use until much later in my learning process. What other advantages does it offer compared to the older models?
Btw, is this the Silhouet-Tone machine you are talking about? I am a bit curious about it too. Can anyone identify the model and say anything about it?
No, this is not the VMC model, but still it is a decent machine. ClareBlend would be best for you.
I know of a VMC available if anyone is looking. Just contact me for details.
A nice Fischer CB-X for $400. Includes the Hinkel book and accessories.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Electrolysis-Machine-Fischer-Compu-Blend-CB-X-GREAT_W0QQitemZ170471481437
And another Fischer CB-X, for $500 and has a reserve.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ELECTROLYSIS-MACHINE-EPILATOR-LIKE-BRAND-NEW_W0QQitemZ220587668393
And the venerable Instantron Elite makes another appearance. Starts at $500. A bit high, I recently sold one (with the air desensitizer option) for half the price. It includes all accessories, needles and three footswitches though.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Instantron-Elite-Epilator-Electrolysis-Machine-Supplies_W0QQitemZ150432851333
I found this Instatron SS-69 Electrolysis Machine that comes with Magnifying glasses, needles and Electrolysis book. The price seems pretty low for everything so I wanted to ask here if it was worth getting or not. Thanks in advance!
The price is ok, with a few caveats. The SS-69 is a thermolysis only machine (it can’t do blend or galvanic.) The book looks like the Hinkel book, which is fine but it is quite old.
(The SS-69 most have been a real workhorse, it is the epilator I see most often on eBay and Craigslist, and in a variety of different cases.)
If you still want it, I’d offer $150 and see if they take it.
You do remember that we advise home users to start with galvanic, work up to blend, and only try to perform thermolysis after one has managed to do good work in these other modes. Thermolysis is most dependent on your abilities to do perfect insertions and select good treatment energies that complement your insertion technique. You know, all the things that a newbie home user will be worst at, and have no one to help get them on the right track quickly.
I am not saying you could not make it work with this machine, but it is not my first choice for someone who has zero experience. I would almost want you to get a one touch with this to start practicing with… ALMOST!
Just an FYI, Texas Electrolysis Supply (1-800-626-6025) offers the service of adding galvanic and blend to this machine for a nominal fee. Buying this unit, and having the addition put on would make this a much more valuable machine, and you would still be paying much less than buying a new anything.
James: Maybe all the work with the obnoxious One-Touch probes is perfect practice since it’s so difficult. I think I’m pretty terrific with insertions now. Due to a broken knob, I had to start right off the bat with thermolysis on my new machine instead of blend like I planned and I’m so proud of myself because it went so well. Perfect releases, minimal pain/sensation, and less reaction than I’ve EVER had from the professional treatment. Seriously, no crusts or bumps, and only slight pinkness that faded very quickly (as opposed to the red dots from my pro treatments that last for weeks or months). Nothing was wrong with the pro treatments or anything, though. 
I just love thermolysis, it’s way faster, less painful than galvanic, and leaves my skin looking so nice. Wheeeee!
Okay, then I will pass on this machine and await for one with the right mode. I will keep saving in the mean time for one of those 1,000+ Machines one day lol.
Not exactly an electrolysis machine per se, but for any readers in the Birmingham, MI area this might be a great opportunity for you to get some professional electrolysis treatments cheap. There are quite a few blocks of 1/2 hour sessions on eBay right now from a clinic who is donating the funds raised to charity.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Half-Hour-Electrolysis-Treatment-/170478228923
One of the best deals on Ebay today. Just the thing for a Home User to learn on, and grow into a pro.
An Instantron Coronet, for the incredibly low low price of… $500???
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270571762234
The only machines on Ebay at the moment are thermolysis only units. For those who have mastered the art of the insertion, and can handle a thermolysis only machine.
The Instantron SS-99 and dry head sterilizer and treatment chaise with a starting price of $600 with $200 shipping! (the chair is heavy Ebay Item # 190395949696
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190395949696
Ebay Item # 300426571111 is the venerable Instantron Tronco 4 SS-69! The final cost of this machine will be less than a few hours of professional work. Pardon Our Interruption...
Although this Instantron Coronet should work for thermolysis only, I think the $500 starting price is a little high for such an antique when they don’t even seem to have the probe holder, which will cost you about $50 to replace. Both the above machines are much younger than this. Ebay Item # 270571762234 Pardon Our Interruption...