hi ive had laser treatment done for the first time 7 weeks ago using a gentleLASE. on my upper legs and whole chest. i was wondering if i should be planning my 2nd treatment now. hair has grown back alot less and i dont think most of it has come through yet. i read its recommended 8 - 12 weeks apart, should i wait until another few weeks possibly but not leave a gap of more then 12 weeks?
i also wanted advice on treating hair on my arms, if i was to have it done how high is safe without stimulating? is the upper arms region begin from the elbow upwards?
i also would like to treat my beard i was advised not to as results are patchy and generally they did not recommend it. but my beard really gets to me and i really want it sorted out, electrolysis took too long and leaves my face in a bad state and there is too much beard to treat so easily. If the hairs grow back patchy could i just not keep lasering them and eventually it will be gone, and get the few strays with electrolysis, or maybe a combination of both throught the way?
sorry for so many questions, i thought i’d get them all out my head and hopefully somebody in here could help me with them
I would do a combination of laser and electrolysis on your face, since it sounds like you don’t have a good electrologist in your locale that can handle your beard with expertise.
All you have to know is that lasing your upper arms is a gamble for laser hair stimulation. It doesn’t happen to everyone, but it is one of those goofy areas where it can happen. Now that you know this, it is your call and depends on how much risk you want to assume. It would be worth a try if you knew you had an electrologist on standby to tick away at the hair that laser stimulated using a computerized epilator that can help a skilled electrolgist remove hundreds of hairs per hour with precise effort.
I had the patchiness problem with laser. But after a few treatments and some time it evened out. Future lasering and electro can even them out and they worked for me.
Laser may help you with the beard if it is really heavy and you get ingrowns, PFB bumps etc. It may help the bumps and make the beard easier to shave and improve your skin in general; that might be worth the money to you even if it doesn’t result in total and complete removal.
What would concern me most is the fact they say they can’t do a beard properly. They may being perfectly honest with you and for whatever reason they can’t do a beard right (lack of experience, equipment?). If they don’t have confidence in their ability to do a beard, I’d consider going somewhere else.
Hair is not growing “back”. You’re seeing hair from the next phase of growth appear now
You should give it a couple more weeks. 7 weeks is a bit early. More hair will show up in the next 2 weeks or so and you’ll be ready to go in.
Don’t treat upper arms with laser unless you have coarse hair there and the clinic will be using high settings
You shouldn’t have patchiness if good settings are used and they OVERLAP WELL. Overlapping is most important. You can even things out with electrolysis later too if you’ll need it.
I posted a thread about two weeks ago about how important overlaping is. Patchiness is a problem when treating large surface areas largely do to the quantity of hair. Only about 20% of the hairs on say the upper back is in anagen,even though you treat the entire surface. We do not pick and choose which hairs are targeted,thus the patchiness. It all evens out in the end when treatments are completed.
In 2002, I collaborated with a couple of dermatologists and
published a paper on the subject of waxing and the role it played in synchronizing cycles. The results were not that dramatic and the end results did not demonstrate that waxing played a part in synchronizing cycles. I will go through my papers and give you the site where you can upload the paper Give me some time, because two of my assistants are on vacation,and my free time is limited.
Ok thanks ive read all the comments through a couple of times and it seems that the general gist is that laser on a male beard is fine as long as it is done well and i am considering the possibilities.
dfahey - when you say a combination of laser and electrolysis do you mean at the same time? or do a course of laser then finish off with electrolysis?
Yes, that’s what I meant. I have been told that electrologists that do laser as well will take the client from the laser table to the electrolysis table to immediately remove any gray, clear, red or white
hairs that the laser could not “see”. I am told that this is done with no ill-effects at all, in fact, the hair slides out nicely.
I think lagirl might be able to remember on the now defunct “Kitty’s Consumer Beware” hair removal website, that either/both? Shelby Owens and Judy Adams said that after they did laser they would immediately remove light hair with electrolysis. I think they work in Florida. I’m not trying to defend this practice, since I am not a laserologist, just passing along information that hopefully I remembered correctly.
I’ve been on both ends. I’ve received and given laser then immediate electrolysis with zero problems, ever. You have to know the limits. Proper training in both modalities is key. The first couple laser treatments on a male beard can be rough, on both the skin’s tolerance and the pain tolerance, so no electrolysis. But once the beard has had some reduction, it’s easy to follow w/electrolysis to pick off the grey, red, white, whatever the case may be.
After 5 minutes of either modality, the skin can look sunburned, swollen, red and warm to the touch, yet the treatment doesn’t end.
I would never compromise my clients’ skin nor my own skin just to save someone a trip to the office. That is why I said, “Proper training in both modalities is key.” Perhaps I should have said proper training AND experience.
Would I recommend every client do this? No. Would I recommend every laser-electrologist do this? No. But many of us do. Without any problems. I respect your choice not to do so.
i am just trying to plan out future treatments to go along with my plans for the year and space them out correctly ( to obtain the best results ).
How long should you space out treatments for the following areas:
Full Legs
Whole Chest
i read the general space is 8 - 12 weeks, i have looked at my schedule and it works out that the space between my 2nd & 3rd treatment is the following:
Chest - 13 weeks
Full Legs - 7 weeks
Will this be okay, and how may it affect the results?
ok Following on from my post above…
…i have been trying to work this out and having trouble balancing these dates!!! its good mental arithmetic it is real number crunching…
okay i had my first treatment on 16th june on my THIGHS, i am planning for my second and third treatment to fit in with my holiday plans.
i would like a treatment around mid october and no much later. I am thinking wether i should squeeze 2 treatments in 1 (asap, next few days,) and another one october 20th.
or
this may be better for me but im not sure how it will affect the results, if i only had one treatment around end of september and another at the beginning of january. If i did do this it will look like ive left a gap of around 15 weeks from treatment 1 and 2, and another gap of around 14 weeks between treatment 2 and 3.
it is real number crunching…