I’m using an apilus sm-500 with multiplex (2 displacement pulses) on a lady who has distorted roots from yrs of bad ingrowns. Some of her roots are the classic j shape. I’m finding it a struggle to get these hairs to slide out easily. Sometimes even the insertions can be difficult due to dry thick skin with tight follicle openings.
Today I used 3 pulses (with a lower setting) to see if it helped. It didn’t really. I normally use displacement with the pulses, but now I’m wondering if I should let it all pulse at the bottom of the follicle since the papilla is curved?
I can’t use blend due to health reasons. Anyone have any setting or technique suggestions dealing with this type of hair?
What are isogard probes Carebearhair?
On difficult hairs like that i have used the ‘pyramid’ technique described by Josefa and it worked. So; inserting twice on either side of the hair. (I was in multiplex at the time) Using insulated.
As you are using multi-plex, you can attempt to synchronize your insertion to deliver treatment energy along the path of the follicle as you slide the probe down. This is like the SIMPLE technique.
This is also a classic case where a little “popping” would be acceptable.
just read the thread about the protec (dectro) probes: dang just ordered a whole bunch.
I was thinking of the Laurier probes, but I don’t have an autoclave yet (not that i would use the probe on more than one person). Been using chemical sterilization for tweezers/tips.
I will try the pyramid technique.
James: how many pulses are generally used in the simple technique? I have tried up to 3 pulses with minor success.
Just after I wrote about needing an autoclave, I found one locally for a good price! So I am going to order some Laurier probes. It took me all day today to read the laurier II thread…can’t wait to try them Of course I gotta learn on all those protec probes too.
I saw my lady again and tried a couple more techniques and settings. I found a higher setting worked best with 3 pulses, but I don’t like to see those tiny pinpoint scabs (which she was having from the previous treatment) and I was resisting turning it up. With the insulated probes I hope to see less skin reaction.
I saw the info on the SIMPLE technique and I think that is what I have been doing but without an insulated probe?
You can also try the “James technique” as I call it for curved follicles. This involves keeping the skin pinched while you insert the probe. As you undoubtedly know, the follicle is malleable, that is, you can change its shape temporally. While the simple stretching horizontally maintains the curvature of the follicle, pinching the skin will get the follicle in a more straight, and your probe will find no obstacle into the first corner of the follicle. It’s complicated to explain, I’m sure James can do it much better.
Note: You do not need an autoclave to use The Laurier IBP. Now the probes are previously sterilized and individually packaged.
Another thing to try. Multi-plex “setting 4,” and note the seconds setting. Pulse setting “2” and go back to the seconds and raise to the original “setting 4” seconds.
Most definitely use the isogard th or bl needles. (bl needles have more tip exposed) With these sequoia (twisted or not) hairs, I match the needle and setting. A size 4 hair would indicate a “setting 4” on the Platinum.
The other tip I will mention is to “worry” that needle into the follicle. What I mean by that is to wiggle it in by watching the surrounding skin for dimpling (you don’t want that), and watching the hair for whether or not it is moving or sliding around with the insertion (you do want that). If you’ve gone out of the follicle the skin will dimple and the hair won’t move. If you are following that follicle the hair might slide around the needle.
Thanks for the tips Barbara, I will have a look at my machine and the multiplex settings esp the seconds. With the sm-500, one picks out the area (chin is #3) and the coarseness of the hair(1-9) to get 2 numbers (for the presets): 34. Not really sure if, that is at all similar to the platinum??
I have been using the pro tec ITH probes since I bought a whole bunch in bulk just before I read more in-depth of the Laurier probes. I still am planning on buying soon
I found the pro tec OK because I used sterex 2 piece quite a bit and they are similar in feel to each other. There are those times/areas when I wish they weren’t so dang bendy, but thats why I need to buy the Laurier probes.
I noticed the skin reactions almost disappeared with the insulated probes and I’m happy with results. I’m glad I tried an insulated probe, I never really thought about it before since I don’t know of anyone personally that uses them. Thank goodness for hairtell and you all
The lady with the distorted hairs can still be a struggle for me sometimes, but her hairs are “softening” and are getting easier to release. I have been using the pinch technique and will watch the hair more closely with insertion like Barbara suggested.
I had another lady start at the same time with similar coarse deep beard and upper lip hairs and man her hairs are dying like I’ve never seen before…Amazingly fast and they come out like butter lol. Only difference (not including hormones/genetics of course) is they are “virgin hairs”. She never really tweezed or waxed her hairs before and just shaved once in awhile. I haven’t seen that too often, usually coarse facial hairs are abused by frequent tweezing, waxing or being lasered before they come to try electrolysis these days.
Of course I gotta learn on all those protec probes too.
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