hairs from 4 weeks ago?

Well, I’m sorry, but that’s not true. All I can think of is she may have an older model in the Silhouet-Tone line and perhaps it needs some calibration??? I’ not good at these guessing games, but that information puzzles me. Also, any hair that was treated with blend that regrows should be thinner if it appears as regrowth. Just the opposite of what was said. Get another consult and treatment and compare. That’s the best action to take.

On her website it says she has surgical magnification…anyway I have 2 more appointments with this lady and then I’ll have a few weeks with the new electrologist while this one’s on vacation and I’ll get a better idea of whether to switch or not.

If hair does come back in after it has been treated, how long does it take? It is difficult for me to tell if some of the hairs are new growth, or they are hairs regrowing that have already been treated.

Hairs need like 4-8 weeks to grow back I think.

I’m now noticing little pits like little acne scars on my upper lip, perhaps from where the crusty scabs were. I now really wonder if that electrologist knows what she’s doing and if I wasted hundreds of dollars with her.

Some people don’t have medical grade magnification and surgical grade lighting. It makes all the difference. Upper lip hairs are notoriously tiny and finding the follicle opening and inserting perfectly on them is nearly impossible without great lighting and magnification.

The good news is that if your person has been guesstimating with a simple 3 diopter magnifyer and a fluorescent circle light, you should heal up eventually. Better viaul aids along with good insertion and treatment technique would avoid this.

(Of course, it was a situation like this that caused that one Asian lady to travel to see me from Seattle once every 6 to 8 weeks.)

I’m glad to hear you think they’ll go away, but this lady has surgical magnification. I don’t know what her problem is.

I don’t know your electrolysis provider, and I have never seen her rig, but if I had $100 for every person who thought that what they had equaled what I have UNTIL they looked through my onboard fiber optic halogen lighted stereo microscope… :grin:

So I went to the new electrologist today for a 1 hr appointment. When I told her about the other electrologist wanting to make hairs thinner over time she said she couldn’t understand that and that somebody should report her. She said that some hairs might have to be treated twice because they’re curved but otherwise she’s trying to kill hairs.

She used blend but is pretty fast and it doesn’t hurt much even with her old-school Clareblend. I hope she is using a high enough setting. It did seem like I could feel a lot of plucking. She recommended that I use Vaniqua because even if she removes all the brown hairs some of them will come back blonde.

She removed quite a lot of hairs. However, I’m worried about the plucking feeling. This woman has glowing reviews on Yelp

She also made a comment about me not drinking enough water.

I have another appointment next week. I’ll try drinking more water and see if that affects the plucking feeling. I really want to find someone reliable and move foward on my hair removal. I SO don’t have anymore money to waste on treatments that don’t work.

Considering the amount of time I’ve put in, and the fact that I’ve never gone longer than 3 weeks between treatments, do I seem very behind if my face still can’t be cleared totally in 1 hour?

It’s only been about 5 months and that’s only one one of the areas that you started first, so you’re fine. The treatment time should decrease at around 6 month mark or so. If you’re not getting cleared in 1 hour, you should have longer treatments.

Did you feel a lot of resistance when the hair was being pulled our or did you feel the hair just sliding out of the follicle. That’s an important distinction.

I don’t understand that Vaniqa comment or the hair turning blonde comment. Neither is really valid.

You should try to go for long treamtents and for as long as needed to be constantly clear of hair. That is the best way to tackle the situation.

Yelp reviews are not necessarily a good way to judge. See how many reviews other people making comments have. I have seen several electrologists in the LA area who just started doing electrolysis have reviews from people who claim to have finished etc. Not all of them are real.

I don’t think Vaniqa is needed when you are getting electrolysis! Just get the hairs removed permanently. The electrologist can selectively remove hairs that bother you and leave the unremarkable hairs behind.

I agree with her first comment. We are “kill” hair we don’t reduce the size of hair structures, though that can happen for some thicker hairs as we break them down.

First clearance is realized much sooner with a microfalsh or Picoflash electrologist. People don’t have time or money to waste - they want the hair off as fast as possible. The best forms of thermolysis can do this. Can you do some comparing with other electrologists who have invested in tools that free them to move this along?

Dee

I don’t want to use Vaniqua either as it feels like I put so much stuff on my face already. I get worried though when all these electrologists suggest BCPs and Vaniqua. It’s like they’re discouraged by how much hair I have.

I could try Roma’s electrologist who does flash, but I would have to drive to Alameda. Then there’s the electrologist here in SF who does flash, but I was scared to go to her because of a review on Yelp that says she just plucks. Is it easy to mess up flash?

I do the 1 hour treatments every week because I get coarse black hairs come in on my chin every week and sometimes my upper lip and that way I never have to go too long with them on my face. And the last electrologist never had longer than 1 hour available. Maybe this new one would, but at any rate I think she may be able to clear the whole face soon as she’s quick. If only I could be sure she’s treating the hairs properly.

Sometimes I felt nothing so I guess the hairs slid out. But too often I felt pulling out, especially on my upper lip. I will try to pluck some hairs somewhere on my body to compare the feeling. I don’t think she held the needle in for the 7 seconds or whatever that is needed with blend? but also, those hairs are really small, so maybe they don’t need as long a treatment? Or maybe they were in the wrong growth phase so they couldn’t be really killed?

That’s probably a good idea though, to see if I can make a long appointment to clear my face and then afterwards I could make shorter weekly appointments for the coarse hairs.

Candela, When you find a master of electrolysis,you will have no doubt that you are in capable hands. Keep trying new people for short sessions until you happen upon " the one ". It is really frustrating especially as you are well into your treatment. It would be great to see a photograph , as how a client describes their hairs and how we electrologists view them can vary. After 5 months hairs should look and feel fine - definetly much finer than five months ago. When in doubt,shop around.

Thanks for the advice coconnell. I will try to post a pic soon so you guys can tell me what you think of my regrowth. I think my upper lip is doing very well in that I don’t have coarse black hairs like I started out with anymore, but my chin isn’t seeing enough progress.

I keep having electrologists ask if I ever did laser on my face. I guess I really do have a lot of hair. I’ll be so happy if I ever finish and don’t have to think about it anymore! And if I can start getting to work on all the body areas that need to be done…

Chin hairs are usually stronger than lip hairs ,so it is quite typical to see the lip improve first. However, the chin hairs should appear finer, than when you commensed your treatment.

I had another appointment with the new electrologist and I do have a good feeling about her. I did feel some plucking, but it was on areas that probably had old hairs. When she did new hairs on my chin I didn’t feel anything. And it seemed like she treated the hairs for a long enough time. It HURT on my feet! But thankfully the other areas were ok. And she’s very professional and seems to take pride in her work, and she doesn’t ask personal questions. So I am hopeful.

I thought there might be problems because I had a coffee this morning and felt thirsty and hadn’t drunk any water today. But she didn’t say anything about it.

She asked me again about what the other electrologist had said about thinning hairs, and said that if she meant that hairs would get thinner over time then that was correct because some hairs don’t die right away and come back thinner, but she wanted to know if the electrologist said that she would ONLY try to reduce the size of the hairs. I can’t remember exactly, though.

Toe hair is naturally ouchy for everyone, so that sounds very normal. Diabetics should not be treated, just thought I’d throw that in!

SHE would not say anything. The only person who would usually have a problem with what you described is the person getting treatment. You set yourself up for having more pain and a higher treatment energy being needed to be used. In rare occasions (Usually when I have someone who scores a 20 - 30 out of a possible 70 on my hydration scale) someone will be so dehydrated that treatment can’t be done, as there is not a normalized amount of hydration in the skin. This causes one to have a different treatment setting for each follicle, and the difference between what works in one follicle and what works in another is the difference betwee a perfectly treated hair in one, and a painful high frequencey blow out in another.

In that rare case, the practitioner will cancel the tratment, as one cannot proceed safely.

Good to know. I’ll try to be more hydrated next time.