It has been months since treatment #1 on my face (#2 on my neck) and I am going for another roudn tomorrow.
My goal is to prevent having my “5 oclock” shadow, however I want my beard/mustache to be able to grow in if I wanted it to. Bascially, I’d like to reduce the density of the hair growth so I don’t have the dark pigmentation on my skin right after shaving.
I used the Candela Gentlelase on my chest with great success after 5 treatments and would like the same success on my face - just that w/ my face, I want to be able to grow a beard (if I ever wanted to) - my chest I want complete removal.
I am lightly colored olive skin with black, thick hair growth on my face. I am mildly tan but wear SPF 15 everyday and havent laid out in the sun in weeks.
Questions:
Can I still effectively have the hair removed with this medium tan?
What is a good Joule setting for the Candela laser on my face?
Is it true that if you shoot the laser on an area of skin that normally does not grow hair, that area will now grow hair?
How many treatments will I need to accomplish my goal of removing all hair growth on my neck/under my chin and significantly lowering the density of hair growht on my face?
you should run some searches. all of this has been recently discussed.
they would have to use a lower setting to prevent burning you
it’s impossible to give you a number over the internet. they would have to test to see what your skin can handle safely, especially with a tan
it’s been reported only on several areas: women’s face and men’s shoulders/upper arms
impossible to tell you for sure. this area is very hard to treat and hard to treat in a way so that it doesn’t cause patchy results. the tech needs to be experienced and overlap. also, not sure how you would evenly leave certain areas with more hair. if you want just a reduction, 6-8 treatments might be ok. if you want more than that, you may need 10-15, it’s hard to say.
jimmy, check out some recent threads jmacartney and several others who are having this procedure done (on male face) with no patchiness currently by a very experienced known person in the indutry on the other forum. just fyi. here’s one of them.
unfortunately both posters in that link said they did get patchiness. also they both are in the beginning of treatment so he does not realize its only going to get worse. just like this guy.
when beard guys come to these sites asking about the patchiness early in their treatment they shouldn’t be encouraged to keep going. they need to be told from someone who has been through it, that it is going to get worse and hopefully if they stop only after a few treatments it will all grow back. so they will have a chance at looking normal.
i too was willing to put up with patchiness since i was told it would eventually go away. unfortunately it doesn’t. it just gets worse. i would have saved myself this pain if i could go back.
no, both of them started out with a somewhat inexperienced practitioner and had patchiness. now, they’re going to a very well known person in the industry (jmacarthy had 2 treatments at the new place so far) and are not experiencing patchiness.
they are following the predictable arc. every beard laser guy i’ve talked to goes through a roller coaster.
in several months both those posters will be back here complaining of patchiness. just like angel. btw, angel’s affirmation should be taken off the “success stories” on the other website. it’s outdated and misleading now that he’s seeing the final result is patchy.
the problem is that doing the beard takes so long. most guys (myself included) get excited, then disappointed, then switch lasers or practioner, get excited again, then get disappointed, then wait-and-see, then make a final conclusion that it was a mistake.
Better would be if Angel amended the post to reflect the long term new information.
My heart breaks for the people who find out that they have spent more than what they needed to have gotten clear with me, and still have to pay extra to come to me and get what they thought they were buying in the first place. That being 100% permanent hair removal (not reduction)
I had a call yesterday, not from a guy with a beard, but rather from a 26 year old female who had 6 laser treatments done on her chin with no results. She said she was the perfect candidate and had spent “a whole lot of spending money”. There was a tinge of anger in her voice because this didn’t work for her. I will see her tomorrow and to be fair, I will get more information from her. Hopefully, she knows if she was treated with a real laser verses an IPL. She has turned to electrolysis because her mother had her chin hairs removed many years ago and she has been stable until recently because of menopause happenings.
I don’t know why she did not get results from laser because there are people that do. It appears that the androgen driven face is one of those areas that need the punch and pinpoint concentration of electrolysis. Many people run back to a steady, loyal friend called electrolysis when the trendy, sexy friend doesn’t deliver the goods. With that being said, I am glad that good lasers and good practitioners are “out there” because there are consumers that have been pleased with even partial results.
check out her skin type and coarseness of her hair. i see many people mention that they’re a great candidates because they were told that by the clinic who was selling them the package (usually goes hand in hand with bad laser). then, when I start asking questions, turns out they’re a type IV with fine hair sparse hair.
angel on the other site’s success stories thread is not this person. all those people have been done with treatments for a while. it’s angel from that site who is from europe and had treatments with GentleLASE, not ALC’s machines.
I don’t think those people will be dissappointed. They’re comparing the results from their past treatments with subpar machines and are seeing a huge difference already.
I will get as much info as possible about her situation and report back, lagirl. I’m forever curious about the variables of the different modalities and why something works or doesn’t work.
Permanent hair removal is dependent on many things clicking together just right. The hair is very strong and therefore a formable opponet to “kill” as we all know.
Saw the client today. The laser that was used is a Lyra by Laserscope, a Yag. She has very white skin and dark coarse chin hair that she shaves everyday. She spent $550 for six treatments with no improvement.By the way, she didn’t know the name of the laser, so I got the information off the website of the doctors office where she received treatments.
Oh well, we are starting electrolysis treatment in the next week and she should be cleared within an hour. She shaves, which is great, but the hair was not long enough to grasp since she just shave this morning. This is definitely a case where laser was never needed being that it is her chin and electrolysis can easily handle her problem in an acceptable time frame. So sorry for people when they spend their money and get no results.
Lyra is a bad Yag. It has a tiny spot size of like 7 or 8mm (compare to 18mm of GentleLASE and GentleYAG). Plus, on her skin, a Yag shouldn’t have been used. I suspect low settings in addition to that. Yes, unfortunate that this place was incompetent and she didn’t do her research at all. You should probably post the location and name for others to avoid She sounds like a great case for electrolysis. Let us know how things progress. Maybe she’ll even want to join us here and post pics!
She sounds like a great case for electrolysis. Let us know how things progress. Maybe she’ll even want to join us here and post pics!