Your 4 weeks after picture looks fine. There are a few missed hairs, but that’s normal. I wouldn’t worry about it.
For chest missed hairs may not be important, however for other areas where you want a uniform reduction, not to miss is vital. Because, at the end they don’t even out, they add up. Why? My naive explanation from top of my head is: missed hairs draw more blood than before so they become stronger (coarse), prone to endure laser. Laser spot size is huge when compared to territory of a single hair. So, next time when you apply laser to the territory of a veteran hair from the previous treatment, the hairs in the neighbour territories face a worse fate. This means when you are trying to kill the veteran, you are actually wiping out the neigbours. This leads to nonuniform look, contrasting regions having much hair and less hair.
I don’t get it, a missed hair draws more blood?? and becomes coarse?? Isn’t that the best hair for laser to kill - Coarse hair??
Do you go in within 3 weeks to get the missed spots hit? Or are you sol?
vklepil,
yeah the hair that didnt shed both times actually paused growing for some time.
pdeco1,
yes i definitely will.
anyway could you please recommend me when to go in for my 3rd session?
i’ve had my 1st on 13/05/08 and the 2nd on 21/07/08
the center recommended me to go in at the end of this month but at present(8 weeks after my 2nd treatment) only %65 of my hair have surfaced.
is the remaining %35 dead? cant be can it?
I don’t get it, a missed hair draws more blood?? and becomes coarse?? Isn’t that the best hair for laser to kill - Coarse hair??
Surplus of blood has to go somewhere, if there is some hairs to take advantage of it, why not?
Ok, I wrote “the hair becomes prone to endure laser” and I admit it is illogical and a misstatement. I should have written “they get one step ahead of others”. Sorry about that.
On drawing blood: Laser induced hair growth. Rings any bell?
What blood? I’m not understanding the reference. Laser is attracted to dark pigment, which is in the hair. It doesn’t affect blood. Missed hairs are just missed hairs. They’re not going to be any different. If they’re not killed this time, they’ll be killed next time around. Patchiness is an issue when a relatively large percentage of hair is missed. If it’s a concern for you even with only 10-15% missed, then come in for a touchup 3 weeks after the treatment.
Chest treatments are fine to be spaced 8-12 weeks apart. Give it a couple more weeks and then go in for treatment. That should be fine. And yes, of course less hair should be coming in since you already had some treatments.
You are always simplifying things. I am not OK with “Laser is attracted to dark pigment, which is in the hair. It doesn’t affect blood. Missed hairs are just missed hairs. They’re not going to be any different.” I think there is much more to this.
At the beginning of my argument, I said my explanation would be naive. I am using the term “blood” as a substitute concept in order to explain things in a simplified manner. It is very likely there is something else other than blood that forges those missed regions. I’ll cite some works published earlier and leave it to your own consideration.
http://www.calvizie.net/documento.asp?args=1.1.1022
http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=16789391
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118732045/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
http://www.medproanalysis.com/pdf/HarvardMedicalStudy.pdf
I want to stress one of the observations: It is mentioned in these studies, low-energy treatments induce hair-growth particularly on the treated region. So, if we get back to my discussion, what if the technicians don’t properly overlap so nonuniform energy is delivered to the skin (I don’t want to blame technicians, it is already impossible to deliver uniform energy by any of the overlapping technique even though flawlessly carried out. Just take a look at these figures http://www.hairtell.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/54922/Bringing_up_overlapping.html#Post54922), and as a result some areas receive low-energy and hair growth is induced, and therefore the hair there is stronger than before??
Hairmair. How old are you?
I would go in for a treatment 2 weeks after you started seeing new growth.
If the hair is induced, it wouldn’t appear in just 3 weeks after the treatment. I thought we were discussing hair that never shed, not the hair that appeared/was induced. If the hair didn’t receive enough energy, it wouldn’t shed or it would shed and would come back much later in the next growth cycle. Induced hair is only an issue on a few regions and when the hair is originally fine.
If the hair is induced, it wouldn’t appear in just 3 weeks after the treatment. I thought we were discussing hair that never shed, not the hair that appeared/was induced.
Oh, come on. Did I ever say something like “hey, those hairs are induced hairs.”
Are you really reading the posts carefully or are you just speed-reading them? I am seeing that you like to often go for posting-sprees. Just a few minutes for each post including reading and analyzing??
It is funny to me how some people have no concept that what we give away for free would cost most people $75 per hour.
What ARE you saying? You’re digging when there is nothing there.
James- I am going to have LHR soon, once I find a center near me, I have a few hair around my belly button which some are coarse and others kinda fine but not peach fuzz. Should I avoid the finer hairs because it could stimulate growth? They are dark and not too fine.
Just get electrolysis. What you describe is no big deal for electrolysis. How can you avoid light hairs when coarse hairs are mixed in? Anyway, this is not an area that people report laser induced hair stimulation, but all the same, a skilled electrologist will assuredly get you permanent hair removal within a year or less.
Yes, you need electrolysis for that situation, not laser.
Dfahey- sorry I am a little confused. So this area people don’t report stimulation so it is ok to have laser in this area? The thicker hairs are mainly at the lower part of my belly button and the finer hairs are around the sides and to the top.
Your practitioner can evaluate the hairs to determine the proper treatment. All pubic hair is going to be thick enough to treat with laser. If the hair on your abdomen is soft, downy and thin without a dark pigment, electrolysis may be the better path.
Only a trained professional can tell for sure.
Good luck.
hi, here are some pictures. im sorry but still got difficulty to understand how come only %65 of my hair have surfaced only after 2 sessions. are they really gone?
please check this close up image of my chest taken 8 weeks after my 2nd treatment:
pre-treatment chest:
8 weeks after 2nd treatment chest:
8 weeks after 2nd treatment chest close up 2:
8 weeks after 2nd treatment upper leg close up:
my main question is:
so shall i go in for my 3rd treatment exactly 10 weeks ANYWAY?
or its still better to wait 2 weeks. will the treatment be less effective if i went 13 week after my 2nd treatment?
thanks
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hairmair, yes, 2 treatments kill quite a bit of hair, especially if the hair is coarse and you’re getting good effective treatments. That shouldn’t be surprising as this is exactly what you’re going for here. For this area, you can wait 12 weeks. So give it 12 or so and then go in.
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qbcmtr, what we’re suggesting is that it’s probably smarter not to pay for areas that won’t get results anyway. And if there aren’t a lot of coarse hairs, then electrolysis all the way will probably be a more efficient choice.
Hairmair, I would say around 8 weeks is the most you should wait on your chest. Your thighs could wait another week or two. When does you clinic want you to come back?