Have you enough attacking me and making assumptions about people you don’t know? I’m done - stop responding to me. I’m sorry you feel like your mannerisms are benign. They are not. I assure you, the electrologist does not suspect my disapproval.
I would get laser consultations and stay away from cranky electrologists. Speaking of cranky, I put green dye in the toilets today (St. Patrick’s Day) and got a drop of green on my new pants. I’m really cranky right now.
Do you know if laser hair removal reduces sweating and odor? That’s what I’m trying to stop and I need to kill the hair follicle and cells to do it…
Bromhidrosis means stinking sweat and that’s what I have under my arms (apocrine bromhidrosis). It’s a terrible disorder and I’ve only seen electrolysis used as a non-invasive procedure approved to cure it in the US. Similar to the treatments hidradenitis suppurativa sufferes use, since we are both affected by apocrine sweat gland disorders.
I’m not quite sure why the Nd: YAG is effective for bromhidrosis, but I’d really like to know if anyone generally has a reduction in wetness and odor.
As I mentioned before, no such luck for brom sufferers that use laser hair removal. However, I do not know if they used a Nd: Yag, so that’s something I have to look into. I’d hate to throw money down the drain and I have in the past for treatment…
It’s definitely a different technique, as another studied provided by a user on this board says that it can increase sweating…
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1365-2230.2009.03638.x/abstract
Does anyone actually claim that hair removal by electrolysis reduces sweating? I have had no change whatsoever after laser and electrolysis treatments. Just no more hair. You can use CertainDri products or Botox treatments to reduce sweating. I doubt any type of hair removal will help with the sweating. Does waxing help you with it now? If waxing doesn’t, LHR and electrolysis won’t either.
I have a hard time with that study as it’s impossible to really tell what caused the supposed increase. I suspect that it may be due to the fact that there is no more hair on the area to ABSORB the sweat that was there previously.
ND:Yag laser used for hair removal would be a different part of the machine than what’s used for other skin treatments.
Yes, they do make these claims. Eccrine glands and apocrine glands are different. Electrolysis can affect apocrine sweat gland secretion. Drysol, Botox (normally), Certain Dri, etc affect eccrine sweat glands.
It’s just a single study about laser HR side effects, that’s true. However, several talk about the effects of the Nd: Yag laser treatments, not sure what technique they use. But again, I’m not trying to affect anyone’s business. Just curious.
HairRoute:
http://www.hairroute.com/subscriber/farticles/electrolysis_bromhidrosis.pdf
Not my ideal source, but one that some here might recognize.
Additionally, let me also clarify that your experience with underarm electrolysis appears to be limited, so I’m not sure if your claims are as sufficient as someone who has only used this method. Nothing else…
Electrolysis and laser do the exact same thing - they disable hair follicles with heat. I’ve done both on this area. Laser removed 95% of the hair in 5 treatments. I finished the rest with electrolysis.
It’s utterly pointless to back and forth about this. Please continue to believe electrolysis and laser are the same and that they both just use heat, and I’m assuming require the same technique, as well. Please, continue to believe Botox and Certain Dri affect the apocrine glands. Whatever is suitable for you. It honestly doesn’t matter to me, but it does do a disservice to this board to make that argument.
Bella,
Please keep your cool. There is no need to sound so angry toward people that are only want to help you. Consider this a helpful warning as this is the second poster you have disrespected today.
Or the 3rd that has disrespected me. Depending how you view things. As a veteran poster, I understand your bias.
What kind of help do you need?
Enough dfahey… you have said and done enough. If you see anything that needs to be cleared up, please do.
I don’t understand your last sentence.
Just an update, for anyone who happens to stumble upon this thread. I found a new electrologist and my experience with her was very different. She’s faster, doesn’t take several minutes to find the best setting and never saw keloids as a problem w/ my skin. Her consult was straight to the point. She actually has a staff (unlike the other) that is very kind and complimentary.
Despite years of experience, I believe the previous electrologist doesn’t work as often or doesn’t have much a clientele. The clients I saw were in her office were old women, too, not young women at the clinic I went to last week for a 30 minute consult and free test spot (about 10 minutes).
I’d encourage anyone to “shop” around and do as many consults as you see fit. If anything makes you uncomfortable, keep searching. Recommendations are great, but biased, as that person might not have shopped around. I’m not set, yet, I have a couple more consults to go, but I am very pleased to know there are other great options.
I’m still waiting to see HOW electrolysis cures your condition. Can you explain it to whoever stumbles on this thread in technical terms. What is it that electrolysis does that cures it, specifically?
I’m not arguing with you or participating in your childish behavior, LAgirl. Stop responding to me, period. I gave you a source, consider reading it and doing some research. I find it odd that you would question me, but not another electrologist here who has made the same claim…
For anyone else seeking information about how apocrine glands are related to hair follicles. You can start here:
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There is nothing in the thread from this forum that you posted on the laser section that claims that electrolysis reduces sweating or cures the condition you’re referring to, and there is no explanation for how. There are dozens of people on this forum that claim that laser prevents sweating, but that’s not enough for you. But when it comes to electrolysis, it is. That’s confusing, especially since you or any link you provided so far fail to explain in what way electrolysis cures your condition, i.e. what does it do specifically besides remove the hair (which is the same thing that laser does, or waxing does temporarily).
We’re not bringing this up to argue with you. We’re trying to help you figure out WHAT would work. In order to figure that out, everyone needs to understand HOW what you’re suggesting works.
Everyone has been mature here. You’re the one who started insulting experts genuinely trying to help you get to the bottom of this.
Done. Got it?
Thanks.