Most likely not if the follicle has been damaged sufficiently enough.
Hi,
Everything is going allright…still practising and the insertions are getting better and better.
I have another question I know you have to get a probe that matches the diameter of the hair. BUT what if you can easily get a larger probe (like 4 or 5) into the follicle?
I once read on this forum, I think, that if it is possible to get in a larger probe you should stick with that because the current is then devided over a bigger area…
Is this so?
Yes. A bigger probe disperses the energy over a larger area and thus will affect more hair growing tissue. It also helps with sensation factors. I will always go for the bigger probe. A good visual setup is a must.
Ok thanks.
And is it normal that one seems to get a size 5 needle into almost every follicle?
Because after the many hours of practise I already have put into this I seem to easily get a size 5 probe into almost every follicle, even the thin hair ones…
And what I noticed is that i get A LOT more hits with a size 5 probe…What I mean by hits is that I get a lot more bulb and sheaths with size 5…Is that normal? Or just a coincidence?
I was shocked by the percentage of good ones with this size…
Yes. I drop a 5 or 6 into almost any follicle when using my stereo microscope for vision. Larger probes also tend to get full treatment of the follicle at lower treatment energies. This makes it more the pity that people don’t step up from the circle lamps to the better magnification that would allow more treatments with larger probes.
I had the same experience James speaks of. With a circle lamp, I was using size 2-3 needles on hairs I now use a size 4 or sometimes even a 5 on when I switched to a microscope. I use a needle to “fit the follicle”, like you would fit a hand to a glove or a foot to a sock.
One thing I also found was switching from 2 piece to 1 piece needles also seemed to help with getting an accurate hit. When I first started I found 1 piece needles too stiff and preferred the flexibility of the 2 piece to get down the follicle to the bottom. As my insertion accuracy imrpoved I switched to the stiff 1 piece and learned how to “feel” inside the follicle.
Hi everybody,
Did some more weeks on myself…And it is going good. I think I have a hit rate of around 60%.
Now I read on this forum about do it yourselvers that switched to blend.
I would like to practice some blend on my legs, especially because my insertions go very well now.
I have read two books, one from Gior and one from an electrolysis school in The Netherlands.
Both explain the workings and techniques required for blend, but none are speaking about the current.
Now I know Bono talks about it but it is impossible for me to get that book so I have a question for the PRO’s:
Can you advise me on a “safe” HF current and amount of time and the DC current and time for me to start with?
The leg hairs are quite thick black male hairs…
Just to practice in a ‘safe’ area.
Please some advise…I don’t want to just find out myself…
Thanks!
Where are you located Toeman?
I am located in the Netherlands
Ow and one more question…Sometimes some hard lye sticks to the top of the needle, so I clean that with a clean tissue…
I have never seen my electrologist do that…I once didn’t see it and stuck the needle into the follicle and realised that at the opening of the follicle a little bulb of hard lye stuck to the needle from before.
It started to melt again, so I immediately stopped…Is that good? Because I have this feeling that once melted again, this lye could hurt the skin at the opening because it’s so caustic…Is my feeling right? Or shouldn’t I bother because of the lye sticking to the probe sometimes…?
Don’t worry about it. Many electrolysis people use that spot of dry lye on the probe as a depth mark for the follicle insertion. The use of galvanic or blend assures that you will have lye in the skin during and after the treatment energy is turned off.
Ah thanks,
But as for the blend issue…Could you give me some startng advise James?
Thanks
That would be VERY hard to do, especially not knowing what machine you are using.
So how can I ever know then? Haha!
The DC (for galvanic) current is constant for all machines, meaning, the number for milliamperer on one machine means the same thing on another machine. The problem with giving you suggested settings is that the AC (for thermolysis) current is not constant. You may need to work in ranges of as little as 5 seconds or perhaps as much as 15 seconds in blend to produce enough sodium hydroxide for the thick dark hair but you will have to play with your AC numbers. Are there no electrologists or schools in your region where you can get training? No one to apprentice with?
I suggest the Michael Bono book, THE BLEND and also the book by Hinkle and Lind, ELECTROLYSIS, THERMOLYSIS AND THE BLEND if you want an understanding of the galvanic aspect of equipment that can administer blend.
If you were my son, I would waver between feeling proud and feeling very fearful!
The problem is that how a particular setting is expressed on one machine is not how the same energy level is expressed on another machine.
Clients frequently come into offices with the settings used by their previous electrolysis provider and are confused when the provider waves them off saying, “That won’t help me, I have to find my own way.” The truth is even if the two practitioners are using the exact same machine, they probably won’t use the same settings, as even that depends on the insertion technique, probes used, the hydration of the client on the treatment day, and on and on.
So you see, I really need you to tell me what machine you are using to even have a prayer of helping you. I can’t even “speak the same language” as your machine without knowing what it is.
An Apilus SX-500 setting would be stated, for example, MicroFlash 35. An Apilus Platinum setting would be stated as PicoFlash Chin-5, while a Hinkle UC-2 might be stated, Galvanic a quarter below 6, Thermolysis/Diathermy Intensity a quarter past 2, Timing half past 3. None of these settings is equal. If you put engineers from Apilus, Fischer/Hinkle and Instantron in one room, they could figure out what settings would deliver the same milliamps, or watts, but they would not bother to do so. They would tell you to learn to make your own settings. This is what the Bono Book takes great pains to try to teach you how to do.
I see, I see…Thank you for all the answers…
Hmmmm, I wish I could get the Bono book…Such a shame…
My galvanic is going quite well, so I want to try the next step…But like you guys say, I wanna be careful.
My Machine says HF 0 till 10 with an automatic timer and DC with an automatic timer up to 3 seconds in blend…
You are right the DC is in mA, but the HF is just 0 to 10…
Hmmm darn…I wanna find out!! 
If your HF is 0 to 10, then you have an analog machine, yes?
Is there a reason you are not indicating the name and model
of the machine or did I miss something?
If you want to find out, why don’t you hire a skilled professional for training?
You can get the Bono book from Texas Electrolysis Supply, they ship internationally.
www.texaselectrolysissupply.com
As James said, it will instruct you on how to find the right HF setting. It is a good idea to learn to do this anyway, though from an engineer’s perspective I really wish that there was an option to display the exact power in watts in addition to a relative value such as 0-10 or 0-100%.
Hi,
No there is no reason I don’t say the name. Actually I already did in some threads before.
I gues it’s analog and partially automatic.
It is called the “blendette +” from CTI-Alttec.
New it costs 3000 euro’s, but I got it for 700
this is the one: http://www.cti-alttec.com/eng/blendette.php
You see? left is the HF…it goes from 0 to 10
Texas electrolysis supplies…I guess I need a creditcard then?
high frequency of 40 MHz ??? :whistle: :whistle: