is that not good?
Good? oh yeah, I guess it will be very good. It is thought that this high frequency was reserved only for medical use.
Ah I see.
Well I have to say that these machines are only for professional use. A non-professional cannot buy them.
I was lucky finding someone that wanted to get rid of it so I got it very cheap, since it was still new…
But what does it say? In lay terms, this 40 Mhz?
In lay terms, it is thought that the higher the frequency, the more comfortable the treatments can be. So far, this seems to be the case, based on the progression from the Kree, to the Protius, to the Fischer, to the Apilus.
Scientifically, the only thing I have found to support this claim is that Tesla said that within a certain range of frequency the body doesn’t register pain from electric currents. If I recall my reading (and I am pulling from the cobwebs here) the human body runs on 40mhz, so this would be near the same as an impulse moving in the body… Unless I recall the number wrong, and it is 40hz, instead.
At any rate, the lawful frequency has nothing to do with efficacy, it is all about interferrance between electrical appliances. Old timers like me remember the days when one turned on the vaccum cleaner and everyone in the house got mad because the TV’s and Radios all went on the blink until you turned the thing off.
I personally would love to try with this high frequency. Toeman, do not spare me one for your provider?
lol
Well actually I thought I had a very(!) high pain threshold because I can crank up the power to immense hights haha
But now I understand…It is the 40 Mhz
By the way…Do insulated probes help against adverse skin reactions?
Yes.
The skin surface portion of the probe is insulated with silicone or Teflon, but varying degrees of the tip are left exposed. The insulation ensures that more electrical energy is concentrated at the tip of the probe and thus, the skin surface is relatively spared from treatment. Insulated probes have a short life span (one to nine hours). Intensity needs to decrease to avoid high frequency blowout. I mainly use insulated probes and I do see a big difference in skin reaction. I like gold sometimes for some cases. I never use stainless steel.
I see,
Because I noticed something.
My electrologist treats an area where the hairs are really thick and deep. She uses blend and really has to give those hairs a good blow. It is in the pubic region so you can imagine it is sensitive skin.
I noticed that when she is attacking those hairs, bumps and blisters appear on some places and I am almost certain it has to do with the upper portion of the needle hitting the skin. Because the angles of the hairs are quite small so the needle hits the skin surface and sometimes I can literally see a blister start appearing.
Is it a good idea to suggest to my electrologist, trying to use insulated probes in this region?
You can ask her. Tell her you don’t like to see the skin blistering. Insertions must be perfect. The energy should not be release before the probe is positioned at the bottom of the follicle! Angle and depth of the insertion is very important. If hairs are coming out at a 10 degree angle, bending the probe is helpful. A lot of the bikini line hairs do present at 10 degree angles. Blend is just fine for that area, but it probably hurts more than, say, and electrologist that uses the more modern forms of thermolysis such as PicoFlash or Synchro - brand names from the Apilus Platinum.
Well I think her insertions are quite well it just seems that the skin will react at the surface where the needle enters the follicle while the tip is bottom deep. Insulated needles could help with that problem?
Yes, most certainly, but I don’t know what levels of intensity and timing she is using. Even if I did, I can’t make a judgement because I am not doing the treatment. Insulated probes are great, but the practitioner still needs to choose the correct energy and timing levels so as to not overtreat or undertreat the follicle. It’s a balancing act like many things in life.
I see.
Well I don’t know the intensity but I do know that it is high.
A. I have a very high pain threshold and B. These hairs are a B*tch to catch. They are so fat, thick and deep…One has to really attack them, so to speak
But the skin…It just seems very sensitive, even at a lower setting…But I do not feel pain, just sometimes an irritating tingling.
I will suggest insulated probes then…And we’ll see what happens.
Yes, these are tough hairs that need to be attacked with a size 5 or 6 probe and they need the good energy levels. This is an area where you do not have to fret so much about the skin reaction. It will look very irritated after a treatment. It is a moist area and the friction of clothes rubbing against it contributes to the prolonged healing scenario. Use tea tree oil and aloe vera gel to help the healing along. In this area, everybody’s skin is sensitive.
I am from the Netherlands, and I just don’t seem to find tea tree oil here.
Could you maybe pass me a link to a tea tree oil product so I can see if that is available in Holland?
Tea tree oil is all over the internet. You can order if from a million different places. Here is an example of what you can purchase. Get pharmaceutical grade tea tree oil.
Hi,
Ok I need some help here…
Today I did some again and it went very bad.
Not that I hurt the skin or anything but I had absolutely no hits.
just a couple…Most of them were without bulb or sheath and I was cracking by brains on this one…Why did it go so badly…?
Last time I had a rate of like 60% hits and now almost none…
The only thing I can come up is that I did it right after showering. The skin is very very dry afterwards, is that a problem?
And second of all I noticed that I couldn’t get the needle in easily because of too much risistance from the skin. I really had to push…I guess that is because of the dryness…
Now I have read some electrolysis tips stating that one should moisterize the skin before electrolysis but that sounds contradictory to me because isn’t it so that when one moisturizes the skin, the current can diffuse through the moistures on the surface of the skin making it more prone to scarring?
Please some help here I just don’t understand why it went so bad…Can a dry skin be such an issue?
ps. it would be nice to use some oil of some kind so that the needle slides in much easier but I guess that’s a bad idea…?
The probe should slide in. Maybe your vision part is not as good as last time. Are you using a new probe each time? Are you seeing the follicle opening and inserting at the correct angle and depth?
I wouldn’t moisturize right before. The electrical current would be more intense when moisture is too close to the surface. That is why we let the antiseptic we use to clean the skin prior to electrolysis evaporate or we wipe it off, before inserting the probe. Mild exfoliation in the shower can be helpful to remove debris and flakiness that block the follicle opening and thus, would allow for better insertions.
If you are inserting on an awkward area, your insertions may be the cause and not dry skin. I insert on dry skin all the time and get bulbs. If the energy and timing is not balanced, the hairs may be breaking off underneath the skin.
As we always say, electrolysis is technically very hard to do and that is why it is hard to find a competent and skilled electrologist in some places of the world. You have to be dog determined to get it right. Treatments will vary from week to week. What worked last Monday is not working so well the following Monday. Why? You just have to go through the list of variables in your mind and try something different until you figure it out. Get the principles down because you need to to refer back to these principles when you are in a situation that doesn’t make sense to you.
What area are you working on again?
Hi,
Yes I am always using new probes…Standard I use a size 5 or 6…But maybe I should use a smaller size as then the probe slides in easier…
the problem is not getting into the follicle…it seems when I am in for about 1/5 the needle has resistance to go further so I have to use a little force. But I don’t want to do that as I cannot feel the end of the follicle this way…
I am working on the abdomen and the balls.
It is so stange, it was so easy before…But today (I tried again just a while ago) it doesn’t work out allright.
The only thing I can come up to now is that the needle might be to thick…
I am saying this without seeing you, but you could try a size 4 and see if that makes a difference for the genital area. If most of the hairs are in telogen, then those follicles aren’t very deep and that may be the resistance you feel. If the hairs are in anagen, they are deep and you may be hitting the top of the anchor. Push pass that a little and see what happens.