I´ve been looking for electrolysis here in Sweden, but I´ve only found laser treatments and something they call “epilering” in swedish,or “diametri”. The last two seem to work the same way as electrolysis. They insert a very small needle and the heat then makes the hair loosen and you pull it out with a tweezer. However, and this is a big however, they say that the hair regrows and you have to do it again for about 20 times before the hair is gone. I´ve already done 5 laser treatments with small results, so my budget isn´t that big. Is this normal? Or is epilation or whatever, something different than electrolysis? The persons I´ve been talking to say that it´s the same. But I haven´t heard anybody on this forum say that the hair regrows that much.
Appreciate all help!
Karla
Sorry, I meant Diatremi, and not diametri.
Karla
Electrolysis, be it Diathermy, (an European term for Shortwave, Thermolysis, Heat Treatment Epilation) or Galvanic, or Blend, should be completed in 9 to 18 months if the client gets the required number of hours of treatment spread out over the correct time table over the course of that time. It is my guess, although the only foreign language I speak is French (n’est pas bonne), is that Diametri is just a language specific term for Thermolysis. Although it is true that since thermolysis requires the most perfect of insertion for permanence, it has the highest incidence of regrowth, one should not have to treat every hair 20 times either. 2 or 3 tops in my humble opinion would be the limit.
Usually, the more treatment in the beginning, the less that is needed in the ending.
If the same follicle needs treating 20 times before permanence is achieved, the practitioner doesn’t know good settings, or is purposefully making inadequate settings for the purpose of client comfort and or spreading out the treatments to make more money. Now I have found that in life most of the time when you are challenged to guess if it is great evil or great stupidity, bet your money on stupidity every time. Very few people are truely Evil.
Use the information in www.HairFacts.com to gain information on finding the best Electrologist in your area and follow the schedule of as much treatment in the beginning as you can make, so that you can watch the treatment needs fall to shorter times, less frequently. The quicker you can get the whole area you want treated totally bare the first time, the easier it will be to keep it clear and therefore get to permanent bare skin and no further treatments. Althoug it will be more money up front, it will be less money over all.
[ January 18, 2003, 10:07 AM: Message edited by: James W. Walker VII, CPE ]
I’m a Sweden resident too and can confirm for 100% shure that “diatermi” is another word for thermolysis.
Thank you James and Marta! Very good information. So, Thermolysis is not the best method when it comes to electrolysis? Marta, do you know of the swedish name for the best kind of electrolysis?
(And perhaps of a good practioner?)
Thanks a lot, I appreciate your time!
Karla
The name for “blend” is the same in swedish. Galvanic is “galvanisk” in swedish. Both of those methods requires You to hold a metal bar or have an electrode patch applied, if not You are getting just pure thermolysis.
If You are looking for a practitioner then http://www.hudterapeuterna.a.se/ may be a good starting point. It is “Sveriges Hudterapeuters Riksförbund” and they have a list of practitioners indexed on location. Those listed there are members of SHR and have to meet some qualifications. For a list that includes the non-organized too I think the Yellow pages will be the best source.
[ January 25, 2003, 07:28 AM: Message edited by: Marta ]
Thank you Marta!
I´ll check that out!
Take care,
Karla
I wish everyone chimed in to help as quickly and from as far and wide as we got in this case.
I had gone for 3 test patches where they said they will be performing thermolysis. But in all three places i was made to hold something in my hand during the treatment. Does this mean that they were doing blend or galvanik and not thermolysis.
You dont have to hold anything in your hand while thermolysis is performed?
The item you held was an “indifferent electrode”. It is used during galvanic and thermolysis, but for different reasons. Galvanic (and blend) will need a second connection to you for the current to work. You don’t HAVE to hold something in your hand while thermolysis is performed, but some thermolysis epilators use the indifferent electrode as the “turn on” switch. When you hold the electrode, the epilator senses the insertion and turns on (after the length of time the electrologist inputs into the epilator/computer). This saves the electrologist from having to have a footswitch under the table. Not all thermolysis practitioners use the indifferent electrode.
Thanks Barbra for trying to clear my doubts.
But Out of the three times, two machines were not computerised. and on one of these two machine, there was a button on the stylus, which the electrologist pressed 6-7 times after the insetion and the second one used a foot switch. Do you still think that thermolysis was done?
In England the stylus has the treatment energy switch, so the Britts use their fingers where the Americans use their feet.