electrolysis update, (Simran)

Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
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consulation 1:

well i finally went to my first consulation today. The women was really nice, i felt comfortable there and she was easy to talk to. She had a chart…which she showed me to explain the hair growth and the area on the chart that a needle will be inserted in the follicle to do the treatment.

I had about a minute test patch done…she would have done the sideburn area which i want treated but i had the test patch done on my leg to see how it goes. i dint feel any pain hardly any, the area was abit red for the first hour but now 3 hours later i see the redness going down(hardly any now). she applied tea tree oil/lotion after.

she had this white cotton material thing i dont no if it had anything on it, but she wiped the area with that first before treating. i was told to hold something in my hand while she inserted a needle and applied the current. I think in this minute there were about 8-9 hairs she had done. some hairs when they came out i saw it had this white thing at the end…she told me those were the hairs in growth phase(new hairs) that you would wana get. i asked her how should it feel hairs plucked or what?..she said no but she told me some of the hairs which are old and thicker hairs may feel abit like plucked when they come out…is this true?.i say this cause i think i did feel 1-2 hairs plucked…but maybe it was those thicker hairs coming out feeling (m confused )…also i saw at one point she applied the current twice, coz the hair dint come out the first time…this was good as she dint pluck at that time…also i had the leg area done so i could she exactly what she was doing.

i asked how long maximum she could treat a area…she told me she wouldnt go more then 30-40 minutes on the face…as would want to give skin time to heal and not overdo the area, plus also she herself cannot work for quite a long time as it takes time doing one follicle at a time. I asked her about would the area treated at the end be completely clear bare…she told me well she works through the hairs that are more thicker and noticeable first and cleans up the area then moves on…but NO the area wont be completly bare as the face has alot of hairs and it would be impossible to treat every single hair and all but she would definatly do a more clean up of the area…(NOW THIS KINDA PUTS ME OFF I BEEN GETTING THE IMPRESSION FROM JAMES THAT AFTER THE REQUIRED TREATMENTS 1-2 YEARS THE AREA WOULD BE/CAN BE MADE BARE??)

i asked the women those hairs treated in growth phase wont come back any more…i dont think i got a clear answer here either because she kept telling me the hairs will grow back yes after a treatment but finer and less notciable…and she told me u have to keep treating the hairs a number of times until they stop growing maybe 15 times or more. (AGAIN I SPECIFICALLY ASKED HER ABOUT HAIRS IN GROWTH PHASE, FROM WHAT JAMES SAID IN OTHER POSTS 'A HAIR IN GROWTH PHASE WOULD PROBLY BE NEED TO BE TREATED ABOUT 2 TIMES to defiantly kill it.)

also i asked her how long would it be til i get my first clearance of the area…she dint give me a clear answer she went on to talk about the hairs coming out finer n having to keep treating them until they stop even then not all hairs be completly gone??

she told me she has 10 years experience…she uses the ‘JOYCE BLOCK’ machine(made in NZ)I saw it had THERMOBLEND writeen on it…its the blend method… used the machine for 8 years…however the probe and the paddle is quite new…and she told me she would use a gold needle…its better for indian skin…(which is what i have)… and told me uses size 3 needle for courser hairs such as leg…and facial hairs i.e. finer size 2
by the way her place was nice and clean…shez a beauty therapist

anyway im going for a consulation at another place 2 morow …does this person sound good :s???

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ok first update on treated area from consulation 1, ok the area is not red …but i see tiny red dots/bumps where the insertion was made and probly black or white stuff in middle.

consulation 2

this lady a beauty therapist 2…she had the same machine joyce block THERMOBLEND machine. she does the blend method. 4 years experiece. trained as electrologist in london…and she uses that roller thing at the end. as for place very very clean and very nice…soft music in background and a very relaxing environment effect type anywayz

her attitude i definatly was at ease with talking to her…lol my consulation when i came out i realised it was like 45-50 minutes.

now she told me about different hair phases and answered my questions clearly. she then examined the area i wanted treated under a lamp put these eye pads on my eyes i think coz the light might have been too much for my eyes …to see what kind of hairs they were first…anyway she told me i had i thin Lenugo hair fine hairs…they would be hard to treat because finer hairs generally are and she cant definatly say i would get results however she told me not to get discouraged she told me it would be a very long and costly process as electrolysis isnt a one time thing. now my case finer long hairs she told me its harder to treat as the hairs i have are most probly detached from the root after she examined it.

i asked her how long after i may get first clearance, i was told its hard to say now as i havnt been treated yet…and it depends on pain threshold and stuff how much i can take and also she cant put the setting too low or it wont be as eefective…also a lower setting may require to leave the probe in longer and be treated longer then a higher setting where your only treated only a short amount of time and probe is taken out quicker.
she told me i may be cleared on both side burn area in 4 sessions or maybe 3, it varys.
she told me she would only do 30 minutes on the face as it would be too much for the skin to take…eelctrolysis is a painfull process and even though cleints says they can take it an hour she would do 30 minutes each time.
so m guessing thats 120 minutes and id have my first clearance(30*4)
she also told me that i did not have to think that electrolysis is my only option i could also consider other methods…such as waaxing and she said this retardant cream that she said to keep applying only for 4 days after waxing as follicle is still open and its effetive i wont see it working straight away but over a longer peroid of time id see hairs getting finer and lesser…also told me people think waxing doesnt work and dont consider it as theres all these new methods coming out IPL laser etc…but overtime from waxing eventually the hair follicle does give up.

she definatly told me to take all the information dont make any haste decisions think about it all…and only consider electrolysis if i was 100 percent and to keep in mind its a long process i will get lots of regrowth in the treated area and i will have to keep coming in and its a costly procdure(now i liked this, she kept reinforcing this to me a number of times…and keeping it like it is)

she also asked me questions about health if i had any problems/hereditary thing etc…told me if i did it may make treatement harder…but not impossible.
i asked her about scarring/pits she told me the reasons of it wrong insertion/taking out needle while current still on etc…told me scarring is not likely however can still occur usually from the main reasons above and manny others however she hasnt had any from her experience

now a had a test patch done… she did about 5 hairs on my leg… i cudnt really see the procedure as the lamp was on top in the way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> anyway she wiped the area first…i think must be alcohol not sure…then i was told to hold this thing in my hand and she put the needle i dint feel tht but i did feel the sensation this time however it was still bearable. she showed me the hairs she took out…told me these ones that have the bulb at the end is the one that is still attached…and did the roller thing at end…(i have to say it was very nice and cooling)…then she applied tthat hair retardant cream i talked about above <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> ( now i have doubts…as in other post i read better not to do this)

i did ask her about her using the hair retardant thing at the end why would u want to do that when u want the hairs coming in growth phase and have it treated…she told me that thing is for making the hairs thiner/finer…it kind of bleaches the hair and also makes it weaker…therefore this way the hairs come out easier after she would apply current…easeier for her and easier for mee as i would feel leser pain i think(i.e less current to apply)…still whats ur opinion on this JAMES???

so do you guys think she any good??..i liked her attitude and all but that hair retardant thing kinda a put of <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

anyway im going for another consulation tomorow elsewhere, will keep ya all updated <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />…and sorry for the very long post

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Long posts are required when one is giving lots of information. Where did people get the idea that we don’t want long posts here? (say one of the biggest offenders of long posting)

She sounds like she may be good, but that hair retardant thing is pretty usless to me. I won’t hurt if you are keeping up with treatment, but it is really not all that beneficial in my opinion. Of course, some people are always looking, touching and rubbing their face for any little thing to complain about, and for them, that cream would give the electrologist some extra time before the client is howling “I have hair!” again.

Keep us posted, and type all that you want, as long as you are not redundant.

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ok kool. thanx james. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

ok update time. test patch area from consult 1 u can hardly see anything was done there. on closer look still tiny red bumps.
test area from consult 2: you can see red bumps/dots in the treated area.

consultation 3:
they do a whole lot of other stuff other then electrolysis…so not an actuall electrolysis place…think beauty therapists…they have about 3 other people there that also do electrolysis…however i asked for the owner…she had more experiecne and also got the days she does stuff there

the women has 20 years experiece…damn i cant remeber the machine name started with ‘S’ about 11-12 characters long <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />…told me machine made in canada. it was an electronic machine…you no she told me u just set up a setting and work on tht not one of those ones where u see the line going back and forth on metre <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />…and its a machine that shows the number of hairs done as well…
she went through the procedure of showing me different hair stages and the needle inserted…which hairs be old and which new…one with black bulb at end(these the ones youd wana get)…told me old ones kind of have a white bulb <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

place…well there were 2 areas one = hair salon place the other for skin treatments etc…the first area reasonably clean…the second area was clean and nice looking…

anyway she was easy to talk to and i was very comfortable with her…lol again my consulation was like about 80 minutes maybe more test patch included <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

she gave me a printed information page to do with electrolysis .how it works, before after care…how many sessions estimate how long an area clearance estimate/how many required etc

now she uses stainless steel/silver needles (damn my memory gone soo bad i cant remeber <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />)…and she said it was F2 needle(very fine)…i asked if she used gold as well she said she doesnt but if i wanted she could get it in for me but will cost abit xtra for that.

now she does all three methods…HC (diathermy/thermolysis) dc(galvanic)…and both(blend)…she told me from her experience i.e. her clients and since i was indian…and expereicne from these group of clients it would be best if i went with the dc(galvanic) told me tht method however very slow but will still work…and does about 5 hairs per minute…
hmm i asked her how many hairs per minutes she does she told me on average 10 hairs…dint ask with which method, she probly meant blend.
anyway she told me that for me with galvanic i would have no scabs and i wouldnt have as much a skin reaction if at all. she told me from her experience cleints (indian) tended to have scabs and small red bumps with blend…and told me not permanant but temporary however due to treatments every week it may look like its permanant to me…as older areas heal the newer area wil have red bumps.

she told me that she prefered her clients that were treated that at the end of it all they had a smooth not scarred skin(whea treatment done) and them being comfortable enough to show the treated area…also the at the end of it all one may not even be able to tell that anything was done there.(this i liked very much)

she said she had about 150 clients or soo coming in for electro…and that she would be happy to give me a few of their contacts whom i could talk to if i wanted by getting their permission first…and yep i agreed to this <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

she told me about one client who was having blend done…and the treatment seemed to be not working on her…7 months or so done the line…and when she used the dc(galvanic) the treatment worked really well…so told me she does alot of trial you no to get the best treatment for a client…which ever is effective of all and also how the skin looked afterwards…she told me if u wanted faster method like HC(thermolysis) your skin may look worser scabs etc…and slower dc(galvanic) lesser reaction on skin…so i can weigh the benefits of whichver method i want to go for.

she told me since i had not touched the area since laser (5 months ago) i had alot of old hair… so told me i could either have them all treated…which wuold be a waste of money since they about to fall out anyway…or i could go the cheats way get it waxed a week before elctro…and that way she can only work on the newer hairs coming on the surface…also told me she sumtimes waxes about 2-3 times in between treatment and told me even though its not good its just soo if theres alot of hairs to treat and if she cant keep up with them i.e. falls behind with treatment…she may wax just so she can treat the newer hairs.
also told me my other option was either bleaching the area. that way she would no which were old hairs and new hairs(being black at the end i think)…and that way she will only pick and work on the newer hairs…and let the old ones just fall out…it will save time/cost…i.e not treating unnesseary hair that will grow anyway and also a shorter treatment time…coz she will only be working on newer hairs told me only 20% of the hhairs are new and about 80 % old…she told me i have alot of hairs to treat about 1000 or so so currently only 200 or so told me the 200 is what she would want to treat n not wasting time treating the unnessary 800

i was told right now she can only work 30 minutes…coz her arm/shoulder is stuffed from doing alot of electro lol and the doc told her not to go more then 30 minutes at a time

anyway i wanted to get a test patch on arm or leg done but she told me her best advise is to get a test patch done where i wanted treated i.e. sideburns…as it will give me an indication of pain and how the skin will react as facial area in terms of pain and skin reaction will be quite different to areas on body.
so i had test patch done on sideburns she first wiped the area…she did both blend and dc to see how it goes…with blend i felt hardly anything…when she just did dc(galvanic)…i felt more of it…actually at times it kind of sort of felt like my skin was pulled which lasted for 6-7 seconds(hard to describe the sensation. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />…so yea with dc(galvanic) i felt more sensation but still bearable.if she did do any plucking lol then i dunno coz i felt the current more and i wudnt even feel plucking done lol…coz i cant tell the difference between plucking and the current being applied lol…at times i did feel abit of sensation similar to plucking and she showed me those hairs they were long…and i was told they old hairs about to fall off…so i dont no if i was plucked or that was the current being applied feeling <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />…she did the roller thing…she then applied this cream(it had aloe vera and tea tree oil in it) its kind of like a burn cream and its custom made for her shop… <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />…and she told me it works really great burns/electro etc…

she showed my skin before (any roller done or her cream aplied) my skin luked pink and i had slight bump/s… she did the rooller showed me again and my skin luked less pink
and to tel the truth 2 hours since…my skin luked liked nothing been done there <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />…must be something that custom made formula.

now this place is like a 10 mninutes walk from my house price is reasonable too 15 minutes ($24), 30 minutes($42), 60 minutes ($65)
consulation 1 prices 15 minutes i think $17, and 30 minutes($28)

consulation 2 prices 15 minutes($25) and 30 minutes($50)

anyway that waxing idea is a put off to me…bleaching = yuck but i guess i could do that…and if that saves me doing unnessary electro and saving money i could do it.
anyway JAMES what do you think about this 3rd one??

gona go for one more consulation 2morow…(lol here it is full of places i could get electrolysis done…but just to not confuse myself with 2 many options il choose from these 4)

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something just occured to me…James im curious…when you treat ur clients on the face…do you seat behind them or treat from the front and move from side to side i.e when treating different sides of the face

i just realised that the lady from consultation 3 treated me from behind when she did the test patch on my sideburn area…and i remeber talking to the receptionist from consulation 2 who told me that she had scars and stuff and was told by the lady in consulation 2 that for the needle to be inserted effectively and properly one needs to sit in front not beehind…and i remeber that when i went for my consulation No. 2 the women telling me she would move from side to side when treating my left side and right side of face. Please clarify James. thank you

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The best treatment situation is where the insertion of the probe is coming straight on, and the practitoner has the most control over the angle and speed of the insertion. One does one’s best to move around to get a head on straight insertion. Sometimes, the only way you can see and insert at the same time, is to do what we call a reverse insertion. Think of it as the electrolysis equivilent of a back hand in tennis. It is hard to do, and not as sure as a forward insertion, or forehand.

A good practitioner will do the right thing for you no matter what is needed. An unskilled practitioner can’t do a reverse insertion well. Come to think of it, some can’t do forward insertions all that well either. That is why you need to test everyone out to see the results of their work for yourself. All the pretty pieces of paper on the wall, and all the marble tiles on the floor won’t tell you who is good, and who is not.

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oh ok…so it depends on the skill of the person not actually the position front or back.

james what did u think of the lady from consulation 3??
overall i think i like her beter and might go for her…waxing and bleaching is a put of but i might tel her just go ahead and clear the whole area anyway without doing the other…i might sk her to do blend since its faster and then later on maybe go to dc(galvanic)…from what i can see in the mirror the test area is looking pretty much back to normal as well even though its harder to see the side of the face but it looks to mee the skin is fine…and i liked the way she said that at the end of it all she wants the clients skin to be scar free/ free of any marks.
oh and i think she uses that one electronic machine…to do all 3 types (galvanic,thermolysis and blend) by selecting the options for it

update on skin reaction…well treated area from consulation 1 skin looking pretty much back to normal just slight brown/redish dots (been 3 days now)

treated area from consulation 2…skin sort of back to normal…and treated area looks like slight redish/kind of brown dots(been 2 days now) and i see black dots in middle, probly new growth coming out

treated area from consulation 3…well like i said above its hard to see very clearly your side of face…but i used 2 mirrors and checked…to me the skin looks normal and slight red dots in some places those were probly where probed…but still they kinda looked like a pimple fading away i think <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> lol (been one day now)

and i havnt been doing much after care…just apply tea-tree oil in the morning…treated area from consulation 2 i forgot to apply the oil there yesterday lol

as for consulation 4:

wel the place was pretty clean…i saw on the machine it was written ‘Epil blend 2A’ and that it used 2 currents so i knew from what i been reading that it had to be blend she used…yet i dont think this women knew what she was talking about coz she told me its a thermolysis machine…and galvanic is where one current dc is used…yet thermolysis is where 2 currents are used a combination of dc and HF(the heating current)…and she told me she had 25 years expericnce. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />

she told me about the different stages of hair growth, i asked her how long will it be when i wont need to come in and also about how long before i see a first clearance…i was told well its hard to tell and electrolysis is a very long process and it depends on how well the hairs come out/fast and how i take the pain…well i guess this bit is reasonable…

i told her about my laser treatment how i had 12 done…and she told me…if i had gone to her first b4 having laser…she would have referred me to laser anyway since it was alot of hairs to treat…and she said hmm since it hasnt worked and all tht many treatments guess i cant do that soo i cuold give electrolysis a try but it would be a very long process and the hairs will keep coming back i have to be constant with my treatments as i would have many hairs in different phases…and the hairs in anagen phase would be the ones that will work…

now she used a stainless steel needle as well, she asked me about my health etc and i asked her about if she had many cleints coming in, she was like yea n all but most of them had lip and chin kinda done…and sideburn area was a different area for her…
she also told me that my skin would be more sensitive to the HF current since it uses heat…and well my skin type would be more prone to burn… and dc current would be more better for my skin type but since she used a combination of currents it may be ok for me…i asked her about scarring again she told me well scarring may occur you cant actually guarantee n rule it out for sure as its sumthing with this machines and different individuals it varies so its not a possiblity to rule out… <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

wel she did a test patch on my side burn area…she washed her hands first…wiped the area clean then i was asked to hold this thing in my hand…while she probed and did the treatment…geez i felt more pain this time but still bearable i guess. hmm i felt like mayb she was pulling out the hairs…and then she would say this is a old hair, oh another old hair…(yet before when i asked her questions i asked if it should feel like plucking and i was told no but since hairs are different in thickness maybe be different angle so n so it may feel like that at times but overall it should slide out easily)…but i felt like the hairs wel being pulled or maybe its just more sensitive when doing blend on my face…and here the weird thing i heard this really weird sound at one time…its weird to describe but like a snap or something.

she also told me that laser was like electrolysis in a way but they just work on more hairs n electrolysis does one hair at a time and takes realy long.

overall she was ok to talk to but i dint feel really that comfortable as the other 3 on top…and to tell the at times i thought she dint no what she was talking about <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
so i wont be going back to her for sure so rule her out…
so please anyway one whoz been getting electro done or any professionals could give their opinion which one of the 3 women from consulation 1,2 or 3 is better…i guess i just need a bit of reasurance

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everything side…this is maybe a coincidence but like iv noticed this i been getting headaches…and they kinda start 3-4 hours after i had test patch done each day…and later iin evening-ish i feel kinda tired and loooo on enerygy…should i be feeling this way?.. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> …coz i been getting this damn headache 4 days in a row now

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Your headache may be from stopping caffeine exposure. Take the amino acid L-tyrosine to take care of caffeine withdrawal. It can also help with quitting smoking.

Understand, that Galvanic is a small amount of electric current. Thermolysis is the creation of an FM radio wave causing vibration, leading to the liquid in the follicle changing from liquid to vapor/gas state and flash cooking the proteins in the follicle on the way out of the skin. Blend is use of both of these methods together.

Although many people will try to tell you otherwise, Electrolysis and Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation (LASER) are not the same. The way the body reacts to electrolysis treatments is very different to the body’s response to light based treatments. It has to be, since there is much more damaged components of the skin system resulting from LASER treatments.

The Canadian machine you were talking about is probably a Silhouet-Tone. The question is could it be a VMC, or a sequentium 300 series, or 200 series.

The area you are having treated just takes experience, to know how to treat it well. It is different from working an upper lip, and the area one has to treat is a smaller target and is deeper than what an upper lip worker is used to seeing. As soon as I figured out the proper setting and insertion depth on you, I would be able to go into fast removal of many hairs at a time mode on you.

I wish you luck in getting good treatment at the fastest rate possible.

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i think the one from consulation 3 is used to treating the area i want treated…coz she was talking to me about many indian having the same sort of problems. and she has alot of indian clients and such…oh and check this out it slipped out lol but she asked me did i no this lady where i had my laser done…it took me a few seconds but hell yaa the stupid cow was there trying not to give my money back and putting all the fault on me…when the women told me that that lady had most of her face done.
now think this why would a laser tech herself have electrolysis done and yet promoting laser to others…i did think her face was too good to be that clean…she indian by the way but then i thought she must be those lucky ones…

il try out the women from consultation 3 and make a 30 minutes appointment for next week to start off.
by the way now that you mention…the machine had sequentium written on it…so must be 200/300…anyway are those machines good??..the women was telling me after i used this machine it was soo good to use bla bla i wudnt go back to those dial ones cost me 12000 so and so.but she also has that old machine the dial one…she told me she uses it for one of her clients who insists on being treated using that old machine

and James thank you for all your feedback <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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You are welcome.

The sequentiums are better than the dial machines, but not as good as the VMC. Of course, that is like saying a Toyota Camry is better than a Kia Rio, but not as good as a Lexus, and still not as good as a Rolls Royce. Not many people in the world have Platinums, VMC’s, Apilus SX0-500’s and such.

As for the Beam weilder having had HER WORK DONE IN ELECTROLYSIS, well, can you blame her? If you want your skin to look like it just never grew any hair, and you want complete control over what does and doesn’t get removed, you get electrolysis with a great practitioner!

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Your headache may be from stopping caffeine exposure. Take the amino acid L-tyrosine to take care of caffeine withdrawal. It can also help with quitting smoking.

but thats the thing i have not changed my diet in any way…and i dont drink coffee in the first place…jsut tea once a day and it doesnt have any caffeine listed on it so dont no if it contains it but even then i have not stoped drinking that…
weird huh

anyway …i made a 3o minutes appointment for thursday…and 30 minutes for friday that way she can do each side each day…even told her to get the gold needles for me…and i shaved the area yesterday… <img src=“/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif” alt=“” />…yuck…but this is once and last that iv done that just to get rid of all the long dead hairs i may have <img src=“/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif” alt=“” />
also gona tell her to start off with blend…and maybe later on use galvanic when hairs are lesser or soo
also this way it will give me 2days(weekend) recovery time before uni on monday
kinda looking forward to it as now m doing sumthing about this…yet at the same time…kinda scared/nervous with this procedure…hopefully after the treatments il feel beta…and hope everything goes well

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That was my best guess. I don’t know what could be going on with you. I don’t think it has any direct relation to the currents though.

Hopefully, you will feel better soon.

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well my headache is gone…was just weird…i had electrolysis test patch done on tuesday/wednesday/thursday/friday…and had bad headaches those days plus saturday(but wasnt as bad as other days) but m fine now <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

anyway i mentioned sum time ago i used a cream to even out my skintone so its a pigmentation/bleaching cream whateva

but there i was worried if any ingrediants ffrom it may be harmful and i mentioned il get back with the ingrediants well here they are:

Water, Cyclomethicone, Dimethicone, Dpientaerythrityl Hexacaprate, Propylene Glycol Myristyl Ether, Capric Triglyceride, Glyceryl Stearate, Squalane, Stearic Acid, Myristic Acid, Palmitic Acid, Lauric Acid, Propylene Glycol , Ceteareth-6, Caviar extract, Hyaluronic Acid, Cetearyl Glucoside, Mulberry Root Extract, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil, Glycyrrhetinic Acid, Retinyl Propionate, Retinyl Palmitate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Arbutin, White Lily Extract, Salicylic Acid, Licorice Extract, Mimosa Tenuiflora Extract, Jojoba, Dog Rose Hips Oil, Panthenol, Triethanolamine, Escin, Carrageenan, Allantoin, Lactose, Hydroxypropyl Methylcellulose, Iron Oxide, Ascorbyl Palmitate, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Citric Acid, DMDM Hydantoin, Disodium EDTA, Fragrance

so i dont no if anything from above may cause any type of complications with my electrolysis and also wanted to know how many days before and after a electrolysis treatment i may need to stop using this cream?

and if its still ok to use it during electrolysis?(i mean whatever days 1-2 days b4 n after i need to stop and if i can start again using it and then again stop 1-2 days before and after a treatment if required that is)

because like i doubt the ppl selling the cream know if any kind of effect/complications may occur from the ingrediants above during electrolysis…so like an electrologist may know best…well thats what i think anyway…

i dont no if it contains any other harmfull ingrediants like steroid/hydroquione…doubt it as i asked em and they said it doesnt…but i bought the cream online so still cant have that 100% guarantee it is as they say…but some of you may know the place their operating in US and the shop is in NY area i think…and the brand name is MAKARI…
the cream above is MAKARI CAVIAR CREAM lol…n to think m putting fish stuff on ma face but hell if its gona work il do it as long as i dont have any health complications from whateva method i take on and that goes for electrolysis too…well so far its going good and hopefully stays that way <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

please advice
thanks

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well i finally had my first initial electrolysis treatment.
I had 30 minutes done on my right side(side burn area)…but there wasnt much growth there so she did a few hairs here and there…side of cheek, jawline, abit on neck…i got like about 20 hairs or so on neck/under chin area so she did them…n i dont mind at all lol

anyway i had the blend treatment done…she wiped the area first…now since i shaved the area last week there hasnt been much growth…but the hairs that did grow she got em…she told me i had very lil stubble…where i shaved and since the hairs very very small she said mite as well wait next weeek for them to be treated by then they mite be a lil bit bigger…she had to use her magnifying glasses because she said it was harder to see the finer hairs i have…
overall at the end she told me made good progress for the 30 minutes…btw i forgot to ask her how many hairs she did…coz like her machines actually keeps a count of it but il try and remeber for tomorow and see how many she does on my left side tomoroow

as for pain i hardly felt anything…plus i been drinking lots of water since this week and last about 2 litres or so a day…as for my diet still the same havnt stoped eating or drinking what i usually have. i have to say i was actually sleepy during the treatment i mean she could have done me for hours and i would still be ok…so it wasnt that bad.
afterwards she did the roller thing…and applied her special made burn/aloe vera cream…which does contain tea-tree oil.
i also asked her about my cream the pigmentation cream that i use…and showed her the ingrediants she said i could start using it if i wanted after 8 hours…,told me the first 8 hours after the electrolysis treatment is the most crucial…and told me its a good idea that i already use the pigmentation cream as it will prevent any pigmentation occuring in the area treeated as indian skin tends to develop that more of and also told me to wear sunblock everyday which i do already.
The treated area looked abit red/pink and when i got home i saw slight bumps like pimples on the skin but il update on how it goes over night… and i will keep applying that cream i actually bought a bottle of it of her so il apply that every 2-3 hours or so.

i paid her for 1 hour treatment howver as im going back tomorow and it costs me cheaper to pay for an hour rather then 30 by 30 <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
so yea tomorow im going back for another 30 minutes to get my left side done…she had alook at it today and said i had better growth on that area so she will be treating them tomorow.

i also asked her in general does finer hairs take longer to treat, i was told actually they are easier to treat then course hairs. i have fine black hairs in the areas i want treated so she told me from her opinion i should have good results maybe quicker then most hopefully by 6 months i should see some reduction and overall a quicker time frame then most.
i hope she is right…and i definatly like the sound of that <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> hopefully things go well
also she told me for the first 3 months i may have regrowth etc and i may feel like the treatments not working but she told me to keep a consistent treatment schedule and keep coming in weekly. which is what James said in a number of posts <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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by the way she told me she used the average setting
and gold F2 needle…il specifically ask her what setting exactly i.e. what number

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also been about 8 hours now…and those red pimple like bumps i had well they all gone and my skin is back to normal as it was before the treatment exception for about 2-3 red dots

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hey i was wrong in thinking the skin gone back to normal well thats what it seemed at the time…but when i woke up this morning i have like red dots/bumps in the treated area in clusters. They look like a rash… is this normal?

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well i had my other side(left) area treated today…she told me she only does the hair that are growing and not the other unnessary ones which are old hairs which will fall out soon anyway.
since i shaved on saturday she said the ‘growing hairs’ are the ones about 3mm and those old hairs are those stubble that i have.

so anyway she did the same thing she did yesterday…but this time only took 20 minutes and she also did abit of chin and my right side here and there. yesterday i had paid for todays session of 30 minutes she told me she gona add the extra ten minutes in my treatment for next week which is good <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

she told me so like i only need 40 minutes a week because thats how long it takes to do both sides 20 minutes each.
and later on she said i could move on to other areas if i wanted depending on the time and cost i was ok with.
anyway she signed me up for 1 hour next week coz like she said if it does go overtime then she could still do it.

i told her i wanted know how many hairs she did…so she set the machine up so it shows the count…and it was 162 hairs and thats for 20 minutes…is that a good speed? bad speed?..for blend that is??

the treated area luks like it did when i had my other side done which i described above yesterday…red bumpy sort of…but te bumps would probly go down in 2 hours or so…so i dont no if m gona get tht red rash like dots on this side…
i showed her the red dots she said that side that lil area luks abit inflamed but other areas luk like nothing been done there so she said my skin is going pretty good
also i dint feel much pain lol n again abit sleepy…
i asked her which setting was it …i dont think theres an exact number…she told me she pressed the setting for chin and course hairs and told me that as time goes she will change the setting.
And also she told me my hairs were sliding out pretty nicely so thats a good sign <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

and she said that she guessing by cristmas i may be down to 15 minutes another good sign <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
m gona keep up my water intake
plus i also gona be taking 2 flexseed oil pills (1000mg) a day and one vitamin E pill 258mg a day…i think i remeber james mentioning on one of the post that it was a good idea if one could take vit E capsule…so hopefully the combo will speed up my skin recovery process <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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Yo, congratulations and welcome to the club! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Just think, you’re a matter of months away from never having to think or worry about a hair problem again!

and, yeah, it sounds about right that in 6 months your time should be cut roughly in half. Lucky you that you have mostly fine hairs!

–susie <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />