Hi all,
I had a treatment on my face about 3 weeks ago.
Do icepick scars only occur if your treatment was high energy + shallow follicle?
The area I’m worried about wasn’t shallow AFAIK. The hairs were quite thick and deep.
I have, what looks clearly like 2 ice-pick scars. Is it possible these could return to normal after some time though?
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Icepick scars occur when one has had cystic acne. Electrolysis is not likely the cause of it. Scarring [img:left]http://www.cysticacnehelp.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Acne-scars-types.jpg[/img]
Excellent graphic/link Barbara! Well done. Besides you cannot form an ice-pick scar in 3 - 4 weeks. You can’t form any scar in so little time!
I already know (okay, my “guess”) is that these “worried about” marks are on the cheeks. What is being described is commonly seen in such a “thin-skin” area with beard hairs; meaning, most of the time. Normal damned healing process.
Yea, the treated area was my face.
So the enlarged/scarred/etc. pores usually fill back in? Or at least get smaller in time?
They’re pretty big presently.
LDLD,
The probability is that the enlarged pores arent caused by electrolysis at all, but have been there from some other cause but previously hidden by the hairs you removed.
Seana
How can anyone say that definitively though?
It’s not as if when - after shaving - every shaved hair, leaves behind a hole.
After shaving, some areas on my face look as if I never had hair growing there.
In a couple days, I’m pulling out the healing section of my book and putting it up for free on my website. Maybe this will answer your questions.
Remember the months-long discussions we had about hyperpigmentation? Well, this is exactly the same discussion but on yet another normal manifestation that will go away when the healing process is completed.
Ok, I’ll give it that much time. It’s not that bad as it currently is, but I was wondering what the healing would be like because I want to have more work done on my beard. So I just needed to know whether that this was normal healing or not, before having more tx.
What did your electrologist say about this?
I just finished up the excerpt on “the Wound Module” (7-pages) this morning, and it should be available for free in a few days.
When you download this, you may copy it and hand it out to your clients (if you wish). This might help you with clients that are unnecessarily nervous about “after-treatment” stuff. (It seems endless, doesn’t it?)
Dr. Jim Schuster did a beautiful video (DVD) on healing (more in-depth), and it’s available from the usual sources (Texas and Prestige). I did a 2-hour presentation of “wound healing” in Japan (2000). I still have all the materials; still offered to the AEA if they want it … for free, of course (aber nur Schweigen!).
The “wound module” was the most important subject I wrote about. My brief explanation was just that … BRIEF!
In my view, the electrology schools should teach wound healing in a major in-depth offering! All the data is there, they just need to get off their fat butts and put it together!
Wound healing is a fascinating subject and it seems essential to electrolysis. I mean, we’re intentionally WOUNDING the skin. Don’t you think we should all be EXPERTS in understanding and managing WOUND HEALING?
If we had such understanding, there would be fewer “voodoo remedies” out there!
Hope this will help.
Free download on “healing” and use it as a guide to research specific aspects that you find interesting.
http://bonoelectrolysis.com/books.htm
Go to the bottom of the page and download the PDF called “Wound Module.”
Very interesting, thank you Michael !
Thanks for sharing the downloads, Michael. I’ve shared it on the three Facebook groups I read.
Excellent! I hope it’s useful!
They essentially said that it was not due to electrolysis.
I haven’t heard from them in awhile though.
I had asked a follow-up question.
Side-question, Michael, have you ever heard of hyper-pigmentation from laser hair removal lasting years until eventually resolving?
Oh gosh!
Point is, if you didn’t have the marks before electrolysis and now you do there is a high probability of “cause and effect.” I’d say so anyway. If they understood why this happened they would not have to deny “nothin’.”
On the laser question, I have to defer to the laser dudes here on Hairtell. I know very little (in a practical sense) about laser. However, anything that causes inflammation in a “PIH-prone” person can cause this reaction.
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