Finally, I'm on the right course!

Fino’s time table is a bit ambitious by most electrologists standards. He’s quicker than a trigger of outlaw’s gun and there is probably no one else on earth that can do what he does. I’m not so sure about his time table and cost chart on laser???

How long have you been at this Jag? You cannot judge yourself by another client she has been doing for three years. I just don’t have enough details to say why you have 82 hairs on your upper lip. Are they all over your lip as if you never started electrolysis? If you have no confidence in her, search on for another. I can’t comment now. I need to re-read all your posts when I have some time to get some more detail, since I can’t get information I need to know now in a nutshell here today. I love when significant information is in a posters signature area.

I don’t have a problem with what Fino lists in the “World Average” column. Of course, I don’t know that anyone who was not named Gior could hope to equal his speed.

I just counted 82 zaps and hairs removed on my lip during todays treatment. This is my 3rd treatment with her and I have not done electrology since I decided to call it quits with my first electrologist in November. I know I am not like her other client, but I am just basing on assumption. She has a lot of confidence in what she does so I am at a stale mate. She knows what she’s doing and I don’t know if I’m analyzing the situation the wrong way or what.

Once you have been fully cleared, you can start the 9 to 12 month clock to finished IF you get recleared at least once every 6 to 8 weeks from that point. You have just said that in the time you have been working, you have not done this yet.

No clearence yet. Still a lot of hair, it’s gonna take awhile before I get a clearence on my abdomen

It shouldn’t take that long if you go in often enough and for long sessions, i.e. for example 2 times a week for 2 hours each time.

Jamie,

This is only your third treatment with this electrologist, right?

Are you concentrating on your upper lip only?

Honestly, it would be so helpful if you could fill in the blanks in the signature portion.

Type of hair ( eg. dark vellus all over the body)
Age: 20 yr. old female, 1/2 Italian
Area of concentration?
Date when electrolysis started
Number of treatments / how long are the sessions
Modality (thermolysis- microflash on an Apilus Senior)
Anything else?

Keep this updated as you move forward. We are more likely to help you if you make so we don’t have to shuffle through fifty posts. That’s very time consuming and we may not be answering your concerns as well as we could.

You have just begun. Am I’m picking up that you are upset with your electrologist? You sound panicky. None of us are Fino Gior, so don’t hold her to that standard. She has to do this according to her comfort level and her level of expertise. Don’t expect instant miracles because you will be disappointed. Perservere and will yourself to relax about this. Concentrate on your upper lip only and then move on, when you are financially ready, and concentrate on your trunk area. Permanent hair removal (electrolysis) / reduction (laser) is not synomous with instant gratification. I know you are frustrated and you are trying to figure this out. You have limited funds and feel the need to demand that this go as fast as possible. If you think this is slow, then check out other electrologists and compare. Don’t fault her as she has her way to do this. If someone was disappointed in my approach and speed, then I would gladly invite them to search onward.

Am I’m summing this up correctly?

Dee

No no no!! I’m not paniced, just some of the other posts that people posted on here confused me. I think she’s swell, I’m just trying to learn as much as I can about this…let me give you the information:

21 year old female
Origins: 1/2 italian, rest is irish, scottish, french canadian and native american
Hair type: I have been told I have “exaggerated vellus” all over my body
Hormone levels: Normal,I got very detailed tests done

And now for my electrology…

Machine: Apilus Senior microflash (uses Blend method)
Treatment includes…:
Upper lip- 10 minutes
Torso- 50 minutes

I go once a week. She is very awesome I just got confused by some of the posts people put on here. I dare not attack electrologists, I have all the respect for them in the world, I am merely just trying to learn and understand everything.

Okay, thanks. Can you now copy and paste the information about your specifics in your signature area? Will you add number of treatments as well and keep this updated please?

Just to clarify - she is using blend not microflash on all areas? Right?

jaganess are you getting your whole stomach done, and just a small area?

Roma, I am getting my whole stomach done, then my chest and breasts. It’ll be a long process. My electrologist said she is using the blend method of microflash. Does such types exist? I am going to add info to my signature now.

THank you Jag for entering your information into the signature part.

Your electrologist has an epilator capable of doing blend or microflash thermolysis. Blend would require that the probe would be inserted into the follicle for several seconds, whereas, microflash would be felt as a warmth of sting under the skin for less than one second. Blend uses DC and AC current. Microflash is alternating current (AC) only and damages the hair follicle with heat.

You can tell the difference as to which modality she is using by how long the probe stays in the follicle. So which do you think you are receiving? She may be switching back and forth between the two as well. Just ask her.

Dee

I will have to ask her that one. I will let you know Tuesday after my 4th treatment.

Now, she could be using manual thermolysis as well. The probe remains in the follicle for more than a second, ususally for several seconds just like blend. All modalites will bring you permanent hair removal, if performed correctly.

Blend will be a LONG process for the stomach, and it’s not really necessary for this area. I had it done with microflash. The fast microflash or thermolysis method that this machine is capable off will get you smooth a lot faster. Definitely figure out what she’s using. There is no such thing as “microflash blend” unless she’s switching between these two methods as she’s working on you.

Okay I have officially learned more about my process. Here it is…

She uses the shortwave on my stomach/chest area
I feel about 3-5 pulses for each hair

Everything else is the same as before.

Shortwave=thermolysis.

It takes her 3-5 zaps to treat each hair? Are you sure? This is very poor technique. It should take one or 2 at most for difficult hairs.

Actually, this is a paradigm difference in technique. Although Dee and I don’t use it, many were taught no other way. They think that one zap electrolysis practitioners are either overtreating, or undertreating. Of course, most people using this type of protocol are also using an older style machine.

She could also be using the SIMPLE method. I met Suzanne Anderer recently, and with her method, I think she may go as high as 7 pulses on the coarsest hair.

There are many roads to the same destination.

Yes, there are so many routes to the same destination that it makes it almost impossible to make a good Electrolysis FAQs page here, as there would be so many qualifiers and alternate descriptions. Funny enough, it is also why so many electrolysis workers think that others are doing something “wrong”, when in fact they are just doing something different.