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Hair Removal Methods Professional Electrolysis
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hi. i have never done any proffesional hair removal treatment before… i have been too worried about costs! but i really want something done. i have read various posts for years now on and off…

anyway i think i will do something! i need alot of hair removal/reduction. i want to start with my uni brow area since this is affordable :slight_smile:
is this a good starting point?

i want to reduce hair on my upper legs + buttocks. to a normal amount, i think a bit of fluff is okay. would laser be a good choice because there is quite alot!

i want to have no hair on my chest or back!
i have a fair amount on my chest. but my back its only a couple dozen long hairs on my upper back that i dont mind so much… maybe it will be easy to permenently treat? i am worried because my dad has a really hairy back, so should i expect to enherit this, and should not treat it until it happens?

i would also like to treat my beard area, permentently remove hair on the cheeks. i know this will be hard, but since i havent shaved it much and the hair is still fine, would this be easier. so should i not shave it because it will make it stronger?

sorry its alot of questions! if you could give me any advice it would be appreciated. thanks!

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First of all, shaving does not make the hair grow darker or thicker. Biggest myth in hair removal. It may look darker and thicker because you just cut it off at the darkest, thickest area. And, people start shaving around puberty when new hair is just starting to grow.

Start with the areas that bother you most!

I would recommend electrolysis for the unibrow area and the sporadic hairs on your back. If you are young you can bet on NEW hair growing on your back and chest. If it bothers you start now and you will be able to have occasional appointments later in life to keep up.

Are you a candidate for laser? Do you have dark hair and light skin? Is it thick hair? I am sure others will have more questions, but more information needed for sure.

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laser will be best for your chest (assuming you have lots there)
aswell as your legs and bum.

Electrolyisis for your uni brow and sparse back hairs. dont go for laser on your back, it can make it worse.

check some of my other posts, you will see laser and electrolysis places i mention in london and essex.

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i have jet black hair which is generally quite thick, (i’m half oriental half white). from what i have read i am a good candidate for laser, although my complexion is a bit different, it is neither white or oriental, but does this not matter, just that i am fair skinned? i am 20. considering the hair on my upper back are very fine but long i think they would be good to treat.

what do you think about treating the eyebrows and back at the same time. i am hoping to start now just before the holidays start, so if something goes wrong or looks obvious treatment i can hide away until the new year! lol
is that a good plan, do eyebrows and back at the same time?

i also read its not good to treat everywhere at once? i would want to but is this less effective? do i have to wait until i complete one area before i move to the next?
what do you think?

morrissey give me the recomendation! :slight_smile:

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Paleboy, you need a good electrologist with decent speed and up to date equipment.

You need a skilled laserologist to evaluate your laser suitablity in regard to skin color.

Unibrow: electrolysis

Hair on Back that is thin, long and black: electrolysis. Microflash would be your best bet. You risk laser hair stimulation for this area. I would make my decision carefully.

Cheeks: electrolysis

Chest: laser

legs: laser

What other area??

Being only twenty, with a genetically hairy dad, means that you may have inherited his charactistics for hair development. You can certainly start your permanent hair removal plan now, as that means less hair to deal with as you push towards 40. Your hair patterns will probably calm down by the fourth decade of life.

You may treat as many areas as you have time and money for. I don’t know why anyone would advise against this unless it would be a budget buster. Setting areas of priority is important with electrolysis because it is hair by hair and you need more visits up front. Maybe that’s where you got this idea???

It sounds like you could benefit from electrolysis and laser. Electrolysis is not for you if you only can find someone who can remove 1-2 hairs per minute and has antiquated equipment, so look carefully if you can’t get a recommendation.

Dee

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that sounds like great advice Dee. thanks.

“Hair on Back that is thin, long and black: electrolysis. Microflash would be your best bet. You risk laser hair stimulation for this area. I would make my decision carefully.” - in regards to this, “you risk laser hair stimulation”, do you mean any treatment can risk causing stimulation to non problematic hairs? or that laser is the wrong option, which it is from what i read about it.

so treating all my areas at once will not affect each other or cause hair to grow elsewhere? if so i may aswell do everywhere at once! i will get a loan lol

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Only the laser failures, for the back, upper arms and shoulders show up on these forums asking what the hell happened? I’m sure there have got to be many clients who have had these areas lased and are very happy, but we don’t hear from those posters, as a rule.

The message that I was trying to convey was, know that this CAN happen and then make your decision based on taking a gamble. Then you won’t show up here on hairtell saying nobody told me this and I spent all this money to get MORE hair! Laser consumers who had this happen to them were not not taken seriously a couple years ago. Then, more complained. Then, it was called a rare, uncommon experience. Now there are more posters than I care to hear about complaining of laser hair stimulation these areas on a man and facial areas on women.

So be warned and decide what’s best for you. Find the best laser for your skin and hair type. Find the most experienced and competent technician that knows how to use that laser.

My electrolysis practice is filled with people that tried laser dutifully, only to have more hair or not enough hair reduced or permanently removed for their satisfaction. The hair money pot is empty and they are asking for discounts and almost demanding that I deliver the goods asap because they have been screwed once and they better not be screwed again.

It is best for laser clinics and offices to present the facts, in writing, to all prospective consumers if they are not doing so already.

Dee

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thats a good point i have heard about this problem, but i have only connected it to LASER from what i have read.

is it possible/heard of, that electrolysis will stimulate hair growth? or does electrolysis generally always weaken hair growth? (concerning fine, sparse hairs)

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Electrolysis permanently disables the hair follicle. If treatment energy is not enough, it will weaken the follicle and leave some hair germ cells behind so the hair will come back thinner and weaker. Electrolysis does not stimulate more hair to grow. If anyone disputes this, they need to produce some meaningful evidence.

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ok that sounds good.

i want to get my upper back and unibrowm, and upper cheeks done in the next few weeks.

so what equipment should i look for, that you see being good for an electrologyst to be using? and how many hairs per minute should they be doing?

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Those are both loaded questions that may result in this thread lengthening into greater than one page.

I can only answer this from my perspective and what works best for me after trying other machines, vision and lighting equipment.

I make a lot of noise about the newer high-ended quality computerized epilators found under brands such as Apilus, Silhouet-Tone, Gentronics, Clareblend, Fischer. Am I missing any? I use the Silhouet-Tone VMC Sequentium. You must know by now that practitioner skill is number one no matter what machine they are using, but the computerized models are so very good for speed, destruction, comfort and minimal skin reaction as long as the electrolgist has got her/his act together and knows how to make proper insertions with the correct intensity and timing. The electrologist must sum up and customize your treatments because every client presents with a different thumbprint.

Magnification makes a huge difference. Proper, quality magnification is essential for electrolgists, but some do fine with cheaper alternatives, so I’m told.

Quality lighting with halogen or LED further’s one’s ability to see the insertion point and skin reaction, thus making for a more comfortable treatment. Many use the circular flourescent light. Never worked well for me though.

So:

Practitioner Skill #1
Quality Professional Computerized Epilator
Quality Magnification Glasses like doctors and dentists use
Quality Lighting

A hygenic office matters very much.

If you can find a practitioner that performs microflash thermolysis and blend, all the better. Computerized epilators have all modality options, by the way, some can do multi-probe electrolysis, too. Some don’t bother with this feature.

Electrologists are just like any other professionals in that they need to update equipment and participate in continuing education to keep up with changes. If they have stayed stagnant for the last twenty years, they may be right for you, but do check out others who have moved forward. Compare different electrologists even if you get recommendations from your friends. We electrologists are all different in small ways and big ways.

Dee

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As we always say here:

Get as many sample treatments and consultations as you can before picking the person you will give the contract to be your hair removal specialist.

Although it is easier to do good work with more modern equipment, it is not impossible to do good work with older equipment.

Of course, a good practitioner with better equipment can do great work fast, whereas the same person with lesser equipment is slower, and the work can have more negative side effects (but not always).