New to perm hair removal - rec for London, UK

The London Thyroid Clinic - www.108harleystreet.co.uk
108 Harley Street, London - +44 20 7563 1234

Maybe call this clinic and see if they have advice on how to handle it.

That is so true about the docs in the UK, you have to be dying before they will take you seriously!!!

It’s so easy to just give up on GP’s as most of them don’t care and think that you are being overparanoid about facial/body hair. I will keep persisting!!!

I can’t afford private treatment at Harley st!!!

Hi

Just thought I would drop a line to let you all know how my consultation with Sara in North London went.

Sara ia brilliant very caring and sympathetic she put me at ease straight away, I chose to be treated by the Apilus flash computer technology, it only costs a few pounds more than old technology so I thought why not, if it means I get rid of these godddam hairs quicker then so be it!!!

I didn’t find it painful at all, more like a sting but I didn’t know she was in my face until I felt the current which is a good sign. Afterwards I had some raised red bumps where the probe had been but this calmed down within a few hours. She told me to apply witch hazel that has been cooled in the fridge and to cleanse my face tonight with cooled boiled water.

I am so excited because it wasn’t as painful as I thought it would be and i start treatment on Monday for 20mins a session once a week and then we will see how we get on. I think Sara works quite quickly but knows exactly what shes doing and I would recommemd her highly!

So when I have been on monday I shall let you all know how it goes.

I just want to say thank you all so much for this site and all your advice it’s nice to know I am not going through this alone!

xxxx

sounds great! can’t wait to hear how you get on :slight_smile:

ok, i have a question for you guys.

as i said, i have now had the sideburn and chin hairs that were causing me most problem dealt with and am still waiting for regrowth.
but i still have hair all over the rest of my face. i have kept going for 15min appointments once a week so that my electrologist can work on thinning the areas around the sideburns and other random hairs that annoy me (i.e. i’d rather electro eyebrow hairs as they come back then tweeze them now). anyway, she suggested that i keep coming for these short appointments once a week and she will spread the treatment out on my cheeks, chin and upper lip to ‘get rid of some of the fluffiness’. by doing this i hope that after a year i will see some reduction of the overall density facial hair.

my question is, do you think this is a waste of time and money? is it better that i just stick to clearing my sideburns for now and then if i want the rest of my face done to do it the ‘full clearance’ way?

If your sideburns are in control for now, go onto other areas to get rid of the fluffiness by all menas. No need to wait. Is 15 minutes really all you need or does she only prefers short sessions?

hi dfahey, thanks for your reply.

the 15mins is more of a cost issue. i started electrolysis initially just for the sideburns and a few stubborn chin hairs. so once the sideburn area was clear my plan was just to go back as and when there was regrowth for touch ups. for the rest of my face, i was planning on doing it ‘properly’ when i had sufficient funds in the future.
but 15mins every week (or 30mins every 2 weeks) is £12.50/15min session. i decided that i can incorporate this into my weekly budget without too much problem. but she is just doing hairs here and there near my sideburns and on my cheeks/chin that are the longest or don’t get bleached properly. so hopefully they will come back thinner, but who knows if she will notice them for targeting on regrowth.
over time this 15min per week will add up to plenty of money too.

so my question was, will this be effective at just reducing the overall look of how hairy my face is? or should i just save this money and wait til i can do my face properly?

to be honest right now i’m not after a completely hair free hair. i can live with how it is… i just wish it was a bit less.
if this method will give me that then i’m happy. i just need to know i’m not wasting my time and money thinking that i will get a reduction like this.

Stopit I’ve got lots of fine hair on my face and i bleach it some of its long and others not that long but long enough to be noticeable!

Its your face and up to you but I think maintenance is probably the better option. I visted Geri(walthamstow) a long time ago and at one point in our discussion she said we are all different some of us faces totally without hair and some of us a downy face. After that I figured that yes its not the worst thing in the world and i’ll stick to having the long/coarse bits dealt with and thin out the fluff. I don’t think that doing the face “properly” is really an option for those of us with fine hair and actually i’m not sure that a “bald” face will suit me the texture of my skin and my lines might just become more obvious :-).

So I am planning to go back and have side burns etc. sorted. Yes it’s a pain all the treking to see Sara for 15mins and the money will add up but better than waiting for anything else.

I think your plan to reduce bigger, noticable hairs is just fine, stopit. You are moving forward and electrolysis can only help. I understand the money thing. If 15 minutes a couples times a month is all you can manage budget-wise, then go fot it, you are not wasting your time at all!

Dee

Hi there everyone, just wanted to add a couple of questions to this thread.

I also have very fine hair on my face (some blonde and some dark). At the moment I am bleaching them, but they are so fine that they are almost undetectable, but being my own worst critic, I can still see them, especially in the sunlight.

I do not have any hormonal imbalances or PCOS, I even got myself checked out to make sure. I am aware that laser does not work on these fine hairs, and thus I am considering electrolysis treatment.

I have olive/naturally tanned skin, which tends to scar and break out very easily. What form of electrolysis would you recommend for my skin i.e. microflash (apilus models) or blend? Is it worth me carrying out electrolysis treatment? Although I want to be rid of this peach fuzz hair and stop bleaching for good, I do not want to damage my skin in any way as I’ve had alot of problems recently.

Any advice/help is greatly appreciated. I apologise if I am repeating any material that has been discussd in other threads.

Shelly

Thermolysis would be fast and easy on this type of hair. Microflash is one type of thermolysis. I would just look for anyone experienced using a good newer machine and any thermolysis method. Get some witch hazel for aftercare and test out several electrologists. There are some recommendations on here in London already as you can tell. There won’t be any scarring with proper treatment.

Electrolysis is your only option (savior) for the hair you describe, so taking a moment to “consider” doing electrolysis is the only step in the right direction.

Any form of electrolysis is good, however, for finer hair, thermolysis or blend will work. You don’t need galvanic only. I vote for thermolysis, but if there is only one electrologist in your locale and all she/he does is blend, then blend is fine,even if it takes longer. I am partial to MicroFlash thermolysis and PicoFlash thermolysis. At the present time, PicoFlash thermolysis can only be done on the Apilus Platinum or Pure models. There are not too many people who own these fine epilators at the present time, so that may be a problem for you. On the positive side of things though, one does not need to choose an electrologist based on whether she uses an Apilus epilator as there are other great companies that serve electrologists well with their own computerized brands. Apilus makes great epilators, but so do other companies and I want to speak up for them as well.

Before I upgraded to the Apilus Platinum, I was using another brand epilator performing MicroFlash thermolysis mainly. It worked perfectly well, just as the Apilus Platinum works for me now, in regard to skin condition and comfort. Clients were very satisfied with their outcome and had they turned their nose up at me because I had a Silhouet Tone VMC, they may have never experienced permanent hair removal. So, don’t be too narrow and dogmatic in your search based on finding someone with an Apilus model, as there are other great brand epilators, too.

Of course electrolysis is worth the effort! You just have to find someone that knows what the heck they are doing! For your own peace of mind, you can start slowly so you can observe your healing and gain trust in the person you hire. The skill of the electrologist mattters most, but very, very close to that is equipment choice. With modern tools and a well-educated and skilled electrologist, I can tell you that it is highly probable for one to have electrolysis and walk away with just a slight reaction that takes minutes to hours to subside. Don’t associate electrolysis with skin damage as it does not happen when you are in good hands. Temporary side effects, if you get them at all, should last less than a week. The temporary skin reaction is not always the fault of the electrologist, by the way. What you do after you leave the office matters a lot. Giving feedback about your healing to your electrologist helps her refine levels. You have got to develop a relationship with your electrologist and if she doesn’t seem to care or listen to you, then go try another electrologist. We are all different, so just go check out the talent in your area. Read this site and jot down important notes about insertions, cleanliness, aftercare, pre-care, hair growth cycles, what is normal temporary side effects and time to completion discussions so you are actively participating and supervising your hair removal plan.

This has all been discussed here, but it is worth your setting time aside to read all you can so you don’t end up confused and frustrated. Electrolysis works well, when performed correctly on a good schedule.

Dee

Dear Lagirl and Dee,

Thank you so much for your responses, you have provided me with a wealth of information and I am truly am grateful! If I do choose to pursue treatment, I will definately be sure to update you on any progress I make!

Once again, thank you both very much for your help and support

Shelly

You are very welcome, Shelly. We’ll wait for your update. Just one kind favor: please come back to THIS thread so all your information is in one place. You can even do better by using the signature in your preferences to quickley state your age, area(s) of concern and other easily retrieved information, so we don’t have to go on the hunt for back posts.

Thanks and goodluck.

Dee

ohh, i was away for a while. thanks so much for your comments dfahey and thereish.

as an update. things have really improved since i started treatment. i’m not even going every week right now as i’m busy and apart from when i got back from holiday 5 weeks ago when there was some sideburn regrowth that i could feel, there hasn’t been any more yet, that is visible at least. my sideburns are now just looking like the rest of my face with fine, soft hairs left. obviously, i still bleach, which isn’t a problem for me as i tend to bleach my chest and tummy hair too. but i feel so much happier now, i find myself tucking my hair behind my ears rather than using it to cover up the sides of my face.

as for those chin hairs, rather than finding a coarse, dark chin hair at least once a week that needs plucking. now they rarely make an appearance… it’s about four weeks before one comes up that needs zapping.

i will still continue to go on a regular basis, hopefully get back to once a week soon. so that i can keep on top of it and hopefully get the density reduced somewhat too.

i’m much more content with the whole situation now. i finally feel like i’m making progress as i’m also getting laser on my underarms and hopefully bikini like after that.

thank you everyone. :slight_smile:

Sounds like you’re making progress. Good luck.

Have you had treatment and if so, where?

Hi Sista, clairy hasn’t been around for a long time but I she was going to Sara. I do know she was still continuing with Sara a short while after the quoted post but I don’t know any more than that or how much progress she has made.

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Do you think it’s better I get work started staright away with the lady you go to, instead of waiting around like I’m doing?