setbacks

hello, While I am comforted by the fact that there is a number of practitioners who are willing to allow to travel to them for marathon sessions, I still try shopping around locally for a trusted electrolysist. still no luck. I am becoming extremely frustrated by the fact that everyone I contact suggests laser or gives me obscured answers as to how long to permancey or how much money it will take to complete my goals. I talked to a lady who told me that clearing a back could take 5 years or more and cost well over $10,000. I had one lady today tell me that on men she will only treat the shoulders and up, any other body areas she refers to laser. I am certainly no expert but why would anyone turn down money, I understand some people not wanting to work on private areas, but why would hair on your back or stomach be any different than hair on your shoulder. sorry for the rant, but It frustrates me that I will have to travel when there are several electrolysis clinics around me locally, none of which can agree with what Ive learned from many of you on here. has anyone else encountered these setbacks?

Where are you located? Your experience sounds fairly typical for most parts of the world.

If you find the answer, I’d love to know. I often wonder the same thing. I bet many of these clinics spent a lot of money on advertising to attract customers. Is not this an inconsistency?
You’re right, there is no reasonable reason to refuse to treat a back, chest, arms, legs. How the customer wants to spend time and money is something that only concerns himself.

Create obstacles to Electrolysis, seems to be the favorite sport of many. That of “only serves to small areas” is a monumental lie but it seems that by repeating over and over again, all have believed in it… including electrologists!

God, what disgust me! :cry:

It is pretty simple, really.
Body Work Is REAL WORK!

The reason many don’t even make it through school, or quit in the early stages of their career, or just refuse to work on anything but faces, and even then, just females with light whiskers.

I don’t know how many people come to me with a story of how many times they were turned away from someone who had advertised that they specialize in permanent hair removal. These persons said “that’s too much hair”, which translates to “I don’t want to work that hard.”

Hit the Musical Cue for Dire Straights, “Money For Nothing.”
Basically, many people, both in, and out of the profession think we get paid money for nothing, but our chiropractors, massage therapists, and other allied professionals can testify that we do, in fact, work hard, and pay a price for what we do.
Money For Nothing… And Your Chicks For Free…

I personally think it’s a speed thing. Being a doubting Thomas as I am and as yet not seeing footage or otherwise of anyone working as fast as Josefa (youtube) I think lack of comparable speed is why other electrologists mightn’t want to undertake a hairy back or chest.
It would be like standing at the edge of a hundred miles of desert and needing to reach the other side. With a tank full of fuel, a powerful bike and the skills to ride it, it is a reality to expect to arrive on the other side. Not everyone can ride a bike or these days or afford the fuel :wink: If you’re sitting there on a child’s tricycle it would be foolhardy to start peddling.
In my mind Josefa is stand alone in what she can do with a hairy back or chest. Of course it can be done but I can’t help thinking that it probably wouldn’t be done as quick… Unless someone is using their fingers as she does and is capable of working through dense hair then speed is going to be impaired, how could it not be. In areas as dense as those in her pictures it would be a nightmare trying to grasp a single hair to lift it away with tweezers. I’d imagine trimming the hair to a more workable length would help??? that would be my approach anyway.
tr3 you should know that Josefa is not typical of most electrologists she is fast fast fast.
She also knows that follicles can be killed first time and don’t need to be in anagen to achieve this. Imagine if you were of the opinion that this wasn’t the case, the desert just got wider…

This explains the situation and I can even understand the fear of confronting challenges such as the back or chest of a man, but still not a valid reason for those who want to opt for Electrolysis in large areas of the body.

That a large majority of electrologists not want to work in large areas does not make this personal decision in a universal law. I do not understand the difference between working 6 hours in 24 people, and work 6 hours on a single person. The time you spend in receiving the customer, assess the condition of the skin, set parameters, hand washing, etc, is an unpaid time you do not have to use a single customer, except for the required breaks.

I do not know James, I come from a family of immigrants, and perhaps I still have the complex of “slave”. The “small” difference is that now, the price of my work I put myself.

By the way, I want to write a new entry for my blog. The theme is “The role of men in the history of our profession”. It seems that despite representing a small part, most of the advances have been led by men. (My main interest is to convince my son that this business is worth).
I need as much information as possible, so I’m counting on you, James.

Follizap, got news of the controversy arises from a program of puppets made in France? in this joke are unjustly accused of doping all the elite of Spanish sport.

Well, French friends, I confess, I work every day doped…
I injected me tons of coffee!.

Oh yes I have encountered these setbacks.
I think many people who have discovered electrolysis, for example on this forum, are forced to travel because the local electrologists refuse to treat the area.
Sadly this makes electrolysis an impossible solution for some people and they are again in the hands of a laser technician.

One other thing I dont understand is that some electrologists seems to carry out these math exercises:
having a machine that is considered one of the best and/or being part of an respected assosiation = being a very good electrologist.

I think clients make their decisions based on the results of the electrologist (for example after a test patch or by seeing photos) and how fast the electrologist can remove the hairs.
Not by what kind of machine is being used or if the electrologist is part of a respected community.

Finding a person with these two skills seems to be very difficult. Maybe because of the myths about only working in anagen hairs?
Certainly this makes the results after a treatment less impressive, you need a bigger amount of sessions and it takes a longer time period to finish the treatments.