I would like to do electrolysis for the chin area. The area to be treated has a mix of dark coarse hair, white hair and long brown-blond hair.
I went to visit a place and the licensed electrolysis operates a silhouette machine.
What should I look for and what type of machine would be good for me?
Thanks.
We would ideally like to hear that she has invested in a Silhouet-Tone VMC, but the lower sequentium models are also good.
Although we can do a lot of talking about machines and magnification and lighting, the best thing for you to do is get many sample treatments and consultations, and go with the person who leaves your skin looking the best when the work is done.
Is it important to know how many hair per minutes the electroligist does?
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Really? I know that sounds good, but wouldn’t a “bad” treatment that did not kill any hair due to insufficient current leave my skin the best looking immediately afterwards? Is it simply a necessary risk to get a few treatments and then decide if the skin damage is too great?
I generally get a red “rash” of bumps after treatment that subsides in a few hours and no visible difference (even on close inpection) is notable after two days. However, if the reduction were better, then I would accept a longer short-term affect on my skin’s appearance, especially for those less-public skin regions…
with proper treatment, there is no reason to have any side effects. good effective treatments don’t need to cause any side effects.
Tex, it sounds like you are recieving good electrolysis care and thanks so much for summing up what you have done and what you are now doing for permanent hair removal in the signature part. Very helpful and a time saver for anyone that answers your questions.
Muci, I would answer your how many hairs per minute question like this: yes, it is important to know an electrologist’s speed factor, but the the most important question before that would be, are her or his insertions accurate. There are many electrologists who can speed along accurately at 6-12 hairs per minute and that would certainly be great a great number. However, if you get an electrologist that is fast, but their insertions are inaccurate then, the number of hairs per minute doesn’t matter because they are not hitting the target. If a slower electrologist can do 5 hairs per minute has and has accurate insertions, then that is very desirable. That is what you want.
Some body and facials areas are more challenging than others and these special challenges can slow us down. Working on a woman’s neck who is top heavy, so to speak, makes proper positioning difficult with the hand and wrist and can strain the back. So, naturally, hairs removed per minute would be lower. I worked on a new client this morning, chin area only, and was able to totally clear her chin in 50 minutes, averaging 9 hairs per minute. It was free range and she was not wiggily or trying to talk to me, which allowed me to work at a speedy clip with no interuption. I used microflash thermolysis. If I had used blend, I would not have been able to clear her chin in 50 minutes. So, modality used matters as well. Both modalities are good, by the way.
So, I hope that helps put your question into perspective. There are variables to this business of hair removal. I would NOT call and ask any electrologist how many hairs they remove per minute. Some would not take that so well. Just go and get a consult and sample treatment (if they give one)and see for yourself. Besides,if they don’t have a computerized epilator, it will be hard for them to tell you how many hairs per minute they can remove. Questions like this makes the crankiest electrologist even crankier. Some will be very approachable and would not take this question the wrong way.
I must brag about you and Tex. Both of you are a shining examples of hair removal clients who tackle their permanent hair removal needs for different areas with different strategies. For you Muci, laser has worked well for your legs and now you are moving onto electrolysis for your face. Tex has summed his story up in the signature section of his post. I personally like the combination approach. Even though the best and fastest electrologist could remove the hair from your legs, that is an area where laser is appropriately faster IIIFFF you are a good candidate that has latched onto the right laser and a good technician. Same holds true for electrolysis. It’s always hard to go on the hunt to find out where these great practitoners exist, so spread the word when you experience something good.
Your questions are welcome here, as you know, so if you need more help trying to settle on an electrologist to do your chin area, we’ll do the best we can to help you along.
Dee
Thanks James, Dee & Tex for your advices.
By the way, my laser tech. who is also a certified electrologist for more tha 9 years, told me the following: if the needle goes deep enough, there will be no bump and the area will look clean. The white bump / pimple effect is due to high current where a needle is not deep enough (I had this effect several years ago and no improvements on the treated area; that’s why I stoped electrolysis).
Just one more question how many days or weeks before starting treatment I have to stop plucking?
Stop tweezing now and show up on the electrologist’s table as new hairs return. Instead of tweezing, you are now actually permanently removing those hairs with a purposeful outcome. Hard core tweezers need closer appointments almost weekly for about eight weeks as regrowth cycles in. Tweezed hairs are strong, so go after them as they newly appear when they are young and fragile.
Start clippimg or shaving in between treatments to disguise hair. If you sneak in tweezing, you waste time and money because you prolong the whole process.
I stopped tweezing 2 weeks ago and already new hairs started to show and I am shaving the coarse one. I hate shaving and I never shaved this area in my life. I would like to start electrolysis right away but I wasn’t sure if electrolysis works like laser where you have to wait 6 weeks after waxing or tweezing before starting treatment.
No! Start now! You don’t have to wait. The hairs are there and are ready for treatment. Get a full clearance everytime if your electrologist can handle it, then you won’t have to shave if you stay on top of any hair that newly emerges. You may have to go weekily for at least eight weeks, but plan on the possibility of 12-16 weeks.
The reason this is done with laser is because most laser practices charge by the area, so to get the most bang for your buck you want as much hair as possible to have regrown and be available for the treatment. Electrologists charge for their time, so if there is hair available to treat, go for it!
I booked 2 consults with 2 electrologists. One is using a microscope. Is this something you recommend?
For now, the area I will like to treat is the upper lip. I have mostly fine brown/black hairs. I am planning to use the same person to clean up the chin and other body parts later on after I am done with laser.
What about if the blond fine hairs don’t bother me, does the electrologist is going to clear everything? Should I ask her not to clear them, or total clearance of the area is easier to monitor to achieve good result?
I actually don’t despise hairs it’s just the dark ones that bothers me. I would bleach but I don’t like the shiny look and hairs become thicker.
Thanks
The better the vision equipment, the better the insertions, and the better the insertions, the better the finished product. Now I am not saying that just because a person has a stereo microscope that person automatically does better work than someone without one, however, it is much easier to do good work with one, than it is without one. One can also do faster work with a Stereo Microscope than without one.
More bang for your buck!
Thanks for helping me me getting the more bang for my buck!
What bout my second question that relates to clearance:
What about if the blond fine hairs don’t bother me, does the electrologist is going to clear everything? Should I ask her not to clear them, or total clearance of the area is easier to monitor to achieve good result?
I actually don’t despise hairs it’s just the dark ones that bothers me. I would bleach but I don’t like the shiny look and hairs become thicker.
Blond hairs should be ignored as long as they are not a length that is noticable at conversation distance. I’m sure any electrologist would know to leave the normal blondies alone and focus in on thicker hairs only, no matter what color they are, but do feel free to discuss this with her. For the most part, many electrologists seem to be using crap magnification and lighting and can’t see those hairs anyway, so that is a bit reassuring. Maybe?
Dee
Yes it is .
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